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    Show shirt & navy vest OK for dressage phase? UPDATE post #13

    I read the rules. At my lower level, collared show shirt required, jacket is optional. It's supposed to be hot for the show, but my Irideon vest & shirt looks sharper than shirt alone. Have worn this combo for schooling shows, but is it OK for a rated one?
    Savor those rides where you feel like a million bucks, because there will be those where you feel like a cheap date...

    #2
    When rates shows allow for no coat they require a "shirt -long or short sleeves with collar and without neckwear, if a conservative color, neatly tucked into riding breeches." USEF handbook EV114 5a.

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      #3
      At rated shows, jackets aren't required at my level. What I'd like to know is if a fitted riding vest is allowed, as it is in Dressage-only shows. Since no one has chimed in with a resounding "yes", I'll assume it's not. Better to be safe than sorry!
      Last edited by Lusoluv; Aug. 28, 2020, 08:27 AM.
      Savor those rides where you feel like a million bucks, because there will be those where you feel like a cheap date...

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        #4
        MY interpretation, as a TD, would be that a vest is NOT legal. But it is a mater of interpretation,and what counts is the JUDGE's interpretation.

        Your best bet is to ask the event management.
        Janet

        chief feeder and mucker for Music, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now). Spy is gone. April 15, 1982 to Jan 10, 2019.

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          #5
          As Janet said, I'd ask the TD, but I can tell you that I've seen riders wear vests during the dressage at the 3 rated HTs I've competed at this year.

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            #6
            I was at a horse trial and a rider was wearing a vest, with some of the cooler fabric jackets, I'd opt for that over a vest.

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              #7
              I have a navy long sleeve show shirt, white collar, white cuffs and only a patch on my chest is white, worn it many times without a jacket, no problem.

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                #8
                Thanks everyone for your feedback. Although I had an early ride time and it was about 70F with sunshine, I was still wringing wet in my jacket. I may email the USEA to ask this question. That way I will have some assurance vs hoping I'll be OK. I love my jacket, but as I age, heat is becoming a factor for me. I often show alone so have to wear it during warmup and the test.
                Savor those rides where you feel like a million bucks, because there will be those where you feel like a cheap date...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lusoluv View Post
                  Thanks everyone for your feedback. Although I had an early ride time and it was about 70F with sunshine, I was still wringing wet in my jacket. I may email the USEA to ask this question. That way I will have some assurance vs hoping I'll be OK. I love my jacket, but as I age, heat is becoming a factor for me. I often show alone so have to wear it during warmup and the test.
                  A-you need to check with USEF, not USEA, as USEF is in charge of the rules.

                  B- You can definitely ride in a shirt without a jacket. It is the addition of the vest that is not covered by the rules.(Though I don't understand why you would WANT to add a vest if heat is "a factor " for you.)
                  Janet

                  chief feeder and mucker for Music, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now). Spy is gone. April 15, 1982 to Jan 10, 2019.

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                    #10
                    Janet, thank you for pointing me to the right organization for my dress code question. Although a show shirt by itself is acceptable, I think a lightweight riding vest looks more formal than a shirt alone. Yes, it's slightly warmer, but not nearly as much as my fully lined jacket. Since I have these vests, I wouldn't have to buy another tech show coat. Waiting to hear back from the USEF.
                    Savor those rides where you feel like a million bucks, because there will be those where you feel like a cheap date...

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                      #11
                      Hmm, I would think you could ride in a shirt with a crash vest, so I wonder why not a regular vest. This might require a rule clarification from USEF.
                      Yvonne Lucas
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by yventer View Post
                        Hmm, I would think you could ride in a shirt with a crash vest, so I wonder why not a regular vest. This might require a rule clarification from USEF.
                        A crash vest is safety equipment, a regular vest is not.

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                          #13
                          I have heard back from the USEF on this matter: Non-protective vests are not permitted at this time. Show shirt only or shirt and jacket. There you have it.
                          Savor those rides where you feel like a million bucks, because there will be those where you feel like a cheap date...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Lusoluv View Post
                            I have heard back from the USEF on this matter: Non-protective vests are not permitted at this time. Show shirt only or shirt and jacket. There you have it.
                            Is it different for eventing than regular dressage? I wore a black Pikuer vest for summer shows when they waived coats.
                            Humans dont mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. Sebastian Junger

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                              #15
                              Yes, the rules are different for regular dressage.

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Lusoluv View Post
                                I have heard back from the USEF on this matter: Non-protective vests are not permitted at this time. Show shirt only or shirt and jacket. There you have it.
                                Not necessarily "show shirt." You can wear a polo, etc.
                                That's fine, many of us have slid down this slippery slope and became very happy (and broke) doing it. We may not have a retirement, but we have memories ...

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Lusoluv View Post
                                  I have heard back from the USEF on this matter: Non-protective vests are not permitted at this time. Show shirt only or shirt and jacket. There you have it.
                                  thanks for sharing.

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                                    #18
                                    Shirt must have collar and sleeves. It doesn't have to be a "show shirt". I wear a polo or a turtleneck, depending on the weather.
                                    Janet

                                    chief feeder and mucker for Music, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now). Spy is gone. April 15, 1982 to Jan 10, 2019.

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post

                                      Is it different for eventing than regular dressage? I wore a black Pikuer vest for summer shows when they waived coats.
                                      I'm wondering the same, and thinking it must be. I've seen plenty of riders this summer wearing vests over their shirt for dressage. The vests were not protective vests and these were recognized HTs.

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                                        #20
                                        One could make the argument that a vest is a sleeveless jacket!

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