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"Three Day Event Competition - The Toughest Sport" a film by David Hoffman

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    "Three Day Event Competition - The Toughest Sport" a film by David Hoffman

    A search showed me that this has been posted before, but it's been almost a decade. It's a wonderful documentary about what was truly the endurance phase of the three day competition.
    "She is not fragile like a flower. She is fragile like a bomb."

    Well then, that was fascinating. But doesn't it make one really appreciate body protectors, MIPs helmets, frangible pins, decent ground lines, fences dressed to help horses read the questions, 'unjumpables' to guide horse and rider through a complex, a prescribed maximum depth of water, improved medical resuscitation techniques, better knowledge of head trauma so concussion is treated with the respect it deserves. And dare I say it, horses less tired?

    And they were hauling around lead weights!
    Last edited by Willesdon; Jun. 29, 2020, 05:35 AM. Reason: Added a comment
    "Good young horses are bred, but good advanced horses are trained" Sam Griffiths


      I quit watching when Mike Plumb said that he was glad that his horse got hurt.


        Originally posted by Salty View Post
        I quit watching when Mike Plumb said that he was glad that his horse got hurt.
        Yeah that was some garbage.

        I still cried though, cause everyone was so young!!!
        Let me apologize in advance.


          What a coincidence - I was just googling around for Torrance Watkins. I think of her every time I see a post from poltroon.


            Originally posted by FitzE View Post
            What a coincidence - I was just googling around for Torrance Watkins. I think of her every time I see a post from poltroon.
            As you can guess, I loved that pair so much.
            If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket


              Originally posted by poltroon View Post

              As you can guess, I loved that pair so much.
              An iconic pair, for sure! Do you know if she's still actively riding? My research turned up a sort of sad story of difficult divorce, fire, loss of horses, etc. I hope she eventually had good luck because it sounded like she had a rough few years.


                I must have missed the part where M. Plumb said he was glad his horse was hurt. The video just kind of stopped and didn't come to a real end, just ended with the ambulance going off with Karen Stives.


                  Is this the competition preceeding Karen Stives stepping down for a few years? I recall someone mentiioning she had a bad fall in late 70's/early 80's and stepped back to reasses her riding style/skills/etc.

                  16 Hands - I didn't hear that either and it also cut off after Stives was taken away. I think I remember watching a longer version of this some time ago.


                    Yes, Michael Plumb said he was glad his horse seemed to be hurt, because he'd be more careful next time. It's not an uncommon sentiment, but it's so so much different when the game is a horse whacking itself on a pole that falls down versus killing itself and its rider over a fence that doesn't break, and I also just think it feels so much more tone deaf and gross to us in 2020 with now a couple decades of what feels like a meat grinder in eventing, for both horses and riders.

                    Let me apologize in advance.


                      Karen Stives was pretty much killed in that fall. She was very lucky to be brought back with CPR because the stats on that aren’t good and there was no ambulance AED back then. Would have made for a very different day and a different history.

                      My only surprise was that she didn’t get off the stretcher and get back on the horse.

                      Very interesting to watch the falls though - the outcomes seemed quite good for the horses in some cases. Like when that horse leaves a leg, the rider falls off and then the horse lands on its feet but over the rider (then kicks the rider’s head.). What would the outcome have been if the fence was pinned?


                        I noticed a lot/ most/ all of the horses had no leg protection at all. Kind of surprising. I remember using polos back in the early 80s but then, there was no water complex either.


                          Originally posted by FitzE View Post

                          An iconic pair, for sure! Do you know if she's still actively riding? My research turned up a sort of sad story of difficult divorce, fire, loss of horses, etc. I hope she eventually had good luck because it sounded like she had a rough few years.
                          Torrance and her partner had a large farm in Massachusetts for many years, I believe it was several hundred acres and they used to hold an annual event there. This was long after her divorce and it sounded as though she was leading a fulfilling life. I seem to remember reading that they discontinued the event quite a few years ago, and I haven't heard anything since then. COTH should do a "where are they now" article on some of these people, although maybe they prefer their privacy.


                            A lot of the footage was in Sylvester and I believe International Velvet. I had most of the vhs tapes from 84-94...watched those non-stop. The scariest fall was when I went in 92 I think it was and Stephen Bradley got airlifted from the Lynch's Leap. Oh the old days.