• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

WHAT is going on at Woodside?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • WHAT is going on at Woodside?

    Just saw on the results that 3 of the 6 Advanced riders fell on XC. Also tons of stops at Preliminary and a few RFs and an MR as well. Is everyone ok?? Very worried.
    http://greybrookeventing.blogspot.com/
    http://kerickso.tumblr.com

  • #2
    I was also curious to know why in some of the divisions there were like 90-100 time penalties, even if the rider went clean.

    Comment


    • #3
      Condolences are in order...

      posted to friends in barn e-mails...Sarah Berry's gelding Yo Lo Tengo was euthanized on course after he collapsed. Lots of other folks that are "crashing and burning" just had all these horses at Rebecca...some moved up here...some are just not ready to go again...obviously, from the score board....BUT the scores and times on line are not accurate for hours after the fact! so recheck on the penalties for time, etc. Same glitch was seen on-line at Rebecca as well...entire divisions were really posted strange!!!!! Again, condolences to Sarah and Tengo,,,,He was a good guy.

      Comment


      • #4
        I had a friend there that said the horse the was put down broke a leg coming off a water jump .. She made it sound like he couldn't get up, was thrashing around and wasn't able to clear his head from the water. I am not there but that was the phone call I got.


        My thoughts are with his rider

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #5
          Oh how awful - condolences to all.
          http://greybrookeventing.blogspot.com/
          http://kerickso.tumblr.com

          Comment


          • #6
            Yes there was a lot of stops on prelim x-country, but there were a lot of move up people here and it isn't a run in the park course, the terrain is very hilly and there are a lot of skinnies after drops...overall technical. Another thing to remember is Rebecca farm was three weeks ago, so that wasn't the problem. Condolences to the horse that passed he will be missed.
            http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...r/DSC_1428.jpg

            Comment


            • #7
              No the horse collapsed at the water, they are doing a necropsy right now at Stanford university.
              http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...r/DSC_1428.jpg

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by three_dayer View Post
                No the horse collapsed at the water, they are doing a necropsy right now at Stanford university.
                Really? Stanford doesn't have a vet school or vet hospital.

                Comment


                • #9
                  possible cardiac episode..necropsy being done...

                  according to trainer of horse who had to be euthanized. don't know, wasn't there. but thats what the e-mail back to the barn members was about. maybe they heard Stanford but the clinic down the freeway is Steinbeck and they have equine ambulance on site at woodside...just a thought.
                  Last edited by Small Name Trainer aka SNIT!; Aug. 14, 2010, 08:50 PM. Reason: additnal info

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I was one of the jump judges on the preliminary course. The horse did not go down at my jump, but unfortunately I had a good view of the accident. He looked fine as he cleared my fence, jump 3. From what I saw he cleared up 10a, which was rails into the water, got a stride or so away from the fence and went down. The jump in looked clean to me and the landing from my angle didn't look bad either, it was after. He did try to get up, once or twice but failed or went down again. There were people in the water with him immediately holding his head above water, so I don't think that was the problem. One person said broken leg, another said (sp?), but I can't say for sure. My deepest sympathy for his rider, they were having a nice go. It was awful to watch, even from a distance.

                    As far as the other riders, I had a number of close calls and refusals on my fence which was a pretty straight forward stepped table on pretty flat ground. It did slope up before the jump, but the actual jump and the area before and after it were pretty flat. I saw a lot of pilot error....long spots, short spots, chips, and confused horses. Intermediate and Training went much better. Not sure what happened on Advanced. One of the riders falls was on my jump, fence 5, narrow brush in the trees so there were shadows to deal with. It wasn't a bad fall, but to me it looked like either pilot error or the horse and rider disagreeing on take off point. The other one, if I remember correctly, was the result of a dirty stop on a combination. I hope whatever was in the air today goes away so that tomorrow will go smoother. This is the worst I have seen since I have been jump judging out there and these are the same fences in the same or similar spots, so I have no idea what was up. The weather was also cooler than it was for the May event.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Sorry my mistake, I was meaning to say Davis university...the official report was something to do with an aneurism...
                      http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...r/DSC_1428.jpg

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        One of the advanced horse falls was from my barn. Horse was having a great run, jumped into the second water, went across, and in fine advanced horse fashion.... tripped after jumping up the bank and his rider just stepped off his shoulder. Both are perfectly fine, just one of those things.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Thanks you to those that have sent their condolences.
                          My name is Gina Economou, I am Sarah Berry's trainer.
                          Yes, Tengo was euthanized on cross country today. They were having a good run until he fell at the water. He did not break a leg.
                          The necropsy is being done at Davis. He died of massive internal bleeding. At this time however it is not known where the bleeding originated from. They will get more information as time goes by.

                          As to the falls at Advanced....I fell at fence 5. It was 100% pilot error. I panicked, and pulled him to the bottom of a brush fence. He tried his best, and I wound up pretty much stepping off with my vest still attached.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            So so sorry about Sarah's horse and for Sarah :-(

                            As for the prelim course it was "softened" a bit compared to may..

                            1. The water line log pile was moved way back from the post and rails into the water

                            2. You had a nice jump in water instead of a tighter square turn to a wedge

                            3. The skinny Cabin which caused so much trouble after the first water was also moved WAY back to make the drop easy and the slice over the bigger cabin nice

                            4. They got rid of the log pile table to corner before sunken road

                            5. The sunken road line was more direct instead of bending out on landing to the skinny

                            Derek did make the drop (2nd water) to corner a little bit more challenging but compared to May of this year much softer feeling over all

                            I do agree the horse park is not a choice for having students move up to Novice or Prelim (yes on T). The ground can be harder than some courses and the terrain challenging for those not used to galloping up and down hills. the novice's 1st water now has double good size half rounds out of the water in 2 steps, we shall see how this goes tomorrow :-)
                            To be successful, you have to have your heart in your business, and your business in your heart

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Patchintime View Post
                              Thanks you to those that have sent their condolences.
                              My name is Gina Economou, I am Sarah Berry's trainer.
                              Yes, Tengo was euthanized on cross country today. They were having a good run until he fell at the water. He did not break a leg.
                              The necropsy is being done at Davis. He died of massive internal bleeding. At this time however it is not known where the bleeding originated from. They will get more information as time goes by.

                              As to the falls at Advanced....I fell at fence 5. It was 100% pilot error. I panicked, and pulled him to the bottom of a brush fence. He tried his best, and I wound up pretty much stepping off with my vest still attached.
                              Please give Sarah my deepest condolences. Glad you are ok too!

                              Christine
                              Aca-Believe it!!

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                My thoughts go out to Sarah and her family/friends, what a tragedy

                                Another note - has anyone noticed all the time faults, rails, and eliminations in BN-T stadium? It seems excessive, but I'm not sure what happened...

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  I can answer the stadium question, as I saw every ride.

                                  1. Lots of people doing "hunter course" rides - long loops into the corners, etc.

                                  2. There was a lot of "loose in the tack" riding at the N/BN level, and a few at the T level. There were several people who I thought perhaps should not be showing at the level they were competing.

                                  3. Some of the people who had 3 refusals didn't turn away and re-present, they sort of presented, refused, pulled back in front of the jump, refused, rinse, wash, repeat.


                                  And of course there were many lovely, lovely rides, and well turned out horses and riders.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    So sorry for Sarah's loss..
                                    My blog
                                    Follow me along my eventing journey! Complete with mishaps

                                    Vegas! 'Nuff said.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Patchintime View Post
                                      My name is Gina Economou, I am Sarah Berry's trainer.
                                      Yes, Tengo was euthanized on cross country today. They were having a good run until he fell at the water. He did not break a leg.
                                      Gina, I'm so very sorry. My condolences to you, Sarah and all who loved Tengo...

                                      Originally posted by FlightCheck View Post
                                      I can answer the stadium question, as I saw every ride.

                                      1. Lots of people doing "hunter course" rides - long loops into the corners, etc.

                                      2. There was a lot of "loose in the tack" riding at the N/BN level, and a few at the T level. There were several people who I thought perhaps should not be showing at the level they were competing.
                                      This is pretty accurate. As the human half of an aspiring BN team, I go to Woodside to cheer on my friends and to watch and learn from other riders. I always pay close attention to the rides at BN and N. There was a lot of "gymnastic" riding at stadium and I saw quite a few neck grabs to save the round. If nothing else, it kept the onlookers entertained. The course seemed much more inviting this time so clearly the Woodside people paid attention after the last show that had all the carnage in stadium.

                                      I also feel compelled to add this PSA: Always, Always, Always, check your girth before you go into the ring...!!
                                      Proud owner of a Slaughter-Bound TB from a feedlot, and her surprise baby...!
                                      http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/Jen4USC/fave.jpg
                                      http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...SC/running.jpg

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Good news! Novice and Beginner Novice cross country went much better today. We did have some falls and refusals, but no horses fell and we didn't need the ambulance at all. I did see a number of horses saving riders from trouble.

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X