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  • Originally posted by Sticky Situation View Post
    There was talk about the US getting into the Olympics basically by default if countries such as Thailand don’t have enough qualified riders (which sounds like it will most likely be the case) ... does Canada have the same option if they don’t qualify at Pan Ams?
    Yes, same logic would apply..

    To add: it woudl apply to any of the teams that don't qualify at the Europeans as well.

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    • Originally posted by Sticky Situation View Post

      Yes. But it sounds like the course was much harder than a typical 3*/old 2*.
      So is it fair that we sent a 5* horse?

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      • Originally posted by jcraig10 View Post

        So is it fair that we sent a 5* horse?
        In my opinion, sure it's fair as long as there is no rule against it. There has been discussion on previous threads about the "why" of this particular selection with no definitve conclusion that I am aware of. I would presume that potential team members with proven 5* horses can say "yes please consider us for the PanAm team" or "Nope, I don't want to be considered for this opportunity". The logic may be along the lines of "might as well put Thomas on a team while he is sound and going well" because who knows what might happen between now and the next big event?

        I also think Boyd probably very much wanted to deliver for the US after a disappointing WEG - hopefully he is on track to do just that!

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        • Are there other sports in which the Olympic/international games level is no longer the most difficult level in the sport? Seems so odd and out of keeping with thinking of the Olympics as the pinnacle of sports competition. I realize the Olys are a big spectacle now more than anything, at least imo, but still - it's a major paradigm shift for me. Maybe it will start a trend toward this level of difficulty being the "top" in eventing ???
          If thou hast a sorrow, tell it not to the arrow, tell it to thy saddlebow, and ride on, singing. -- King Alfred the Great

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          • Originally posted by Rallycairn View Post
            Are there other sports in which the Olympic/international games level is no longer the most difficult level in the sport? Seems so odd and out of keeping with thinking of the Olympics as the pinnacle of sports competition. I realize the Olys are a big spectacle now more than anything, at least imo, but still - it's a major paradigm shift for me. Maybe it will start a trend toward this level of difficulty being the "top" in eventing ???
            Burghley and Badminton will always be considered the top of the sport. It's too bad that the Olympics are dumbing down, but riders will keep entering the top competitions.

            It's a shame that Olympic Eventing is not one of the most difficult events anymore, but the big events won't fall by the wayside because the Olympics are regressing.

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            • The Olympics had to dumb down, in order to include the weaker nations, and fulfill Olympic aspirations. They would not justify their existence otherwise.
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              • Well, these Pan Am games should give the Olympic people that decide such things pause. It is fine to encourage lesser nations to participate, but looking at these results, you know, it is a dangerous sport. And yesterday There was a serious accident with a pretty experienced rider. I am not really enthused about that. And then, make it more difficult for nations that have been doing this for a good long time. There is no reason for Canada, the US and Brazil should not be able to go to the Olympics. We have been also-rans for a long time. It looks pretty hopeful at the moment.
                Another killer of threads

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                • OOH, look what I just found! EN just did a small write up about our favorite SA horse!

                  https://eventingnation.com/sunday-li...k-helmets-141/
                  Another killer of threads

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                  • Originally posted by Rallycairn View Post
                    Are there other sports in which the Olympic/international games level is no longer the most difficult level in the sport? Seems so odd and out of keeping with thinking of the Olympics as the pinnacle of sports competition. I realize the Olys are a big spectacle now more than anything, at least imo, but still - it's a major paradigm shift for me. Maybe it will start a trend toward this level of difficulty being the "top" in eventing ???
                    Hockey for sure. Baseball too. I just asked my sports fanatic husband and his feeling is soccer maybe at the international level of the Olympics is the only team sport that it is truly right up there. I would say it is different between male and female competitions as well. For hockey, women's hockey would be the Olympic as the highest level of competition.

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                      Originally posted by Larksmom View Post
                      OOH, look what I just found! EN just did a small write up about our favorite SA horse!

                      https://eventingnation.com/sunday-li...k-helmets-141/

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                        Originally posted by jcraig10 View Post

                        So is it fair that we sent a 5* horse?
                        I think it is less about "fair", than ensuring an Olympic qualification. In hindsight, Canada might have chosen differently. Karl's 20 is unfortunate bad luck, but, perhaps there were stronger choices for one or two of the others, if our goal was to ensure a top two finish.

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                        • Saw that Dana Cooke didn’t present Mississippi. All other Canadian riders presented and were accepted

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                          • Originally posted by Larksmom View Post
                            Well, these Pan Am games should give the Olympic people that decide such things pause. It is fine to encourage lesser nations to participate, but looking at these results, you know, it is a dangerous sport. And yesterday There was a serious accident with a pretty experienced rider. I am not really enthused about that. And then, make it more difficult for nations that have been doing this for a good long time. There is no reason for Canada, the US and Brazil should not be able to go to the Olympics. We have been also-rans for a long time. It looks pretty hopeful at the moment.
                            That is a bundle of blustering twaddle! The alternative is to have a 5* with the same few Nations participating every 4 years, and then have it dropped.
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                            • All American horses accepted!

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                              • Any updates on the Americans and the jog? This is lack of access crazy!

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                                • Jinx! Thank you Trak eventer!

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                                  • Seems that online.equipe.com has lost Sunday. It could be my computer though.
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                                    • Yes, the link to Sunday is poof!

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                                      • Dana did not present for Canada :/
                                        Boss Mare Eventing Blog

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                                        • Originally posted by Equibrit View Post

                                          That is a bundle of blustering twaddle! The alternative is to have a 5* with the same few Nations participating every 4 years, and then have it dropped.
                                          Agree. And the host nation has to be able to build a cross country course (hard - unlike baseball and soccer) and do it within reasonable distance from all the other events. I don't see a problem with having a lesser Olympic course and having more nations competing - isn't that the point of the Olympics? All nations coming together, kumbaya, what have you?

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