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Anyone event with a non-traditional breed?

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  • Anyone event with a non-traditional breed?

    I want to try my hand at low level eventing someday (maybe up to Training level) but am a true trail rider (endurance) at heart. So, my favorite breed is the Arabian followed closely by the Morgan. Does anyone event with these or other non-traditional breeds like Standardbreds or other non-TB, TB cross or WB breeds? Can they event at the training level or just the lower levels? I know every horse is an individual but I was just wondering if it is common to see these breeds competing at this level. Thanks!!

  • #2
    Just braid with a running braid.

    chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).


    • #3
      our local club has a welsh cob, quarter horses, arabs, ponies, appies you name it, we likely got it. Most are in the lower levels (under 3'), but in all fairness most of the tbs, and warmbloods are in the lower levels too.


      • #4
        Not necessarily COMMON, just because of how people and markets work in all disciplines, but it’s not hard to find isolated stories of all sorts of different breeds, even mules, competing to Training and beyond. “My” breed, BLM Mustang, has had at least one Prelim horse (Elisa Wallace’s Hwin). I don’t think my guy is destined to get that far along (mostly because I’m too cowardly to lead him boldly forth), but that doesn’t mean there aren’t any number of Hwins among the thousands of horses in BLM herds. Realistically, a large majority of sound equines with the proper basic mindset, with proper training and conditioning, SHOULD be able to safely and successfully complete a Training level competition without anybody getting hurt or badly embarassed (barring unforeseen accident as could happen to anybody at any time), just like any reasonably sound equine should be able to complete a 25 mile endurance race with proper conditioning and training, and a large majority should be able to complete a 50. Whether or not you are highly likely to finish in the top ten, get condition awards (in the case of endurance) or see any real financial benefit in terms of increased value or marketability of the horse if it’s a non-traditional breed are different questions.


        • #5
          I have an Arabian Andalusian cross who has been extremely successful at Novice (hasn’t moved up due to time restraints of my job) and at 2nd level dressage. She will be moving up to 3rd level this spring.
          ~Three phases, Two hearts, One Passion~


          • #6
            Absolutely! I’ve seen all kinds of horses eventing at the lower levels. I rode with someone who has a very nice Morgan (fancy! has a great jump and very competitive at training level), and I see several Arabs and Arab x also doing it.


            • #7
              I’m in the UK where we obviously have a big Eventing scene. Am I right in thinking your ‘training’ level is 3’3/1m ish? If so equivalent to our BE100.

              This standard also compares to our PC & RC intermediate team height (open is bigger).

              Whilst the top Pros may very much favour the trues sporthorses breeding, at the level you refer to there are all kinds of breeds out there doing the job, and some of them do it blooming well.

              native ponies / cobs / Arab / spotties / Iberian/ draught and any mongrel cross of dubious origin!

              To be honest, a lot of amateur riders would have far more fun & success on these types than the fancy ones anyway.


              • #8
                I have a percheron/paint going training, and a Dutch harness x hackney/Clydesdale doing training with scope for a lot more. There are many many different breeds doing novice and below around here. I wouldn't call any breed "non-traditional" at the lower levels! Good luck in the future.


                • #9
                  Pure Morgan at our barn took his "girl" from BN to Prelim before stepping down to teaching LL. See several articles on Eventing Nation highlighting non-traditional breeds. Search their archives.


                  • #10
                    I began "Combined Training" back in the late 60's, with a 14.3 hand Mo-rab. She took me through my "B" Pony Club rating (at that time 3'6") I did Training level with her at recognized events. 400 mpm was her clocked in speed, so Prelim speed was too fast for her.

                    From 2007 - 2014, I rode a Kentucky Mountain Saddle Horse mare, mostly at BN. She did a few at Novice, but I was not comfortable going that level, since I am older. Tessie was very competitive at BN. She often had Dressage scores in the mid 20 penalty point range and usually finished on her Dressage score (except when I would mess up and get a TE for jumping a Novice or Training level jump.)

                    There is no reason why a nontraditional breed cannot do Eventing. Good luck with your horse!
                    When in Doubt, let your horse do the Thinking!


                    • #11
                      Back in the olden days (the 80's), when I lived in KY, I did combined training on a Lipizzaner mare that was very talented. She wasn't my horse, but owned by the trainer of the facility where I took lessons. The most fun I think I ever had riding were those years in KY.
                      ~~ How do you catch a loose horse? Make a noise like a carrot! - British Cavalry joke ~~


                      • #12
                        I've gone Training on a QH pony, a TB/Percheron, a Hungarian Warmblood, and a 14.3 hand mutt (1/4 draft, 1/4 QH, 1/2 unknown). Go have fun on your horse. You'll see all kinds of different horses and ponies out there and no one will judge you for being different.


                        • #13
                          You’ll see just about every breed of horse and pony imaginable at the lower levels ... even at USEA events.

                          The upper levels are mostly WBs and TBs, but there are a few others respresented.

                          My current horse is a 15.2h appendix quarter horse and we have done a couple CIC1*s.


                          • #14
                            My 14.2hh Akhal-Teke cross competed at the ULs in eventing and now is doing the same in combined driving. You'll see the occasional Akhal-Teke in eventing but I don't think I'll see another one pulling a carriage.

                            I also had a Belgian x Saddlebred x TB who competed at Prelim for ages. Great jumper and xc horse.

                            I known a number of Arabs and AAs who've competed at Prelim. Same with Morgans.

                            If you have a horse that you like and who likes eventing, you'll have a great time in the sport.


                            • Original Poster

                              Thank you! Great to hear about all the example of non-traditional breeds doing well!!!


                              • #16
                                I have a Belgian draft x Dutch Harness Horse gelding that is quite successful at Novice. He scores very well in dressage, is fierce on XC, and gets better at SJ with every round.

                                I plan to move him up to Training in 2019, if my work schedule permits. He’s not Prelim material but that’s not what I want to do anyway.

                                Whats funny is that I bought him to be my fox hunter (he does that too) but got sucked back into eventing because he’s done so well at it.


                                • #17
                                  My QH and I are moving up to novice this next year. Don’t think he has the speed for training but definitely has scope - he makes 3’6” look like a cake walk. I’d love to take a Morgan or Arab Eventing. I’m not a warmblood fan and much prefer the odd and unusual breeds in this sport.


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by JER View Post

                                    I also had a Belgian x Saddlebred x TB who competed at Prelim for ages. Great jumper and xc horse.

                                    I swear the Belgian brain is really something special. My Belgian draft cross is such a joy - so uncomplicated, unemotional, and willing


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by BigMick View Post
                                      I swear the Belgian brain is really something special. My Belgian draft cross is such a joy - so uncomplicated, unemotional, and willing
                                      Mine was inexplicably terrified of paper.


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by JER View Post

                                        Mine was inexplicably terrified of paper.

                                        For my BelgianxQH Prelim gelding it was joggers.
                                        Dump trucks, buses, bicycles, motorbikes, dogs and walkers - not a glance, but a jogger, either from ahead or behind, would make him lose his $^i*. It was hilarious