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US Eventing List is out

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    US Eventing List is out

    And look who is not on it.
    Hot off the presses! US Equestrian has just released the 2019 eventing training lists, which are structured following the new U.S. Eventing Pathway Program.

    I'm not sure who is not on it because it looks like the same names that have been on it for years. I guess Buck is not there but he gets bypassed a lot. That list is just same old- same old. Which explains why we never have any depth.
    A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.


      How is this the "same old, same old" when only Lynn, Boyd, and Phillip have championship experience? Who else would you want to see added to this? There are lots of mainstays that were excluded, and rightfully so.

      I personally think they got this right, specifically with only putting Donner and Z up as currently championship ready (elite). In my opinion, this is the first training list we've had in a long time that isn't just everyone that's completed a 4*. I see more potential in the named pre-elite horses than in past developing lists. Almost all of those horses are really quality and still haven't peaked yet, which I think should be the point.


        So it will be back to the same selection process as before. Phillip and Boyd with whatever horse they want to bring plus someone else. Z and Long Island T are not experienced horses. Why not Hallie Coon as she has proven she can do well at the four star level? I like Lynn but why put a 15 year old horse on the list when the next major competition is two years away?
        A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.


          To me it seems like they re organize the lists every time the list comes out . As in last year it was called "world class", "national" etc this year it's elite , pre elite . And the qualifications for each section seem to change every year. Pick a way to organize it and stick with it.

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              Z hasn't had a cross country jumping penalty ever and hasn't had a rail since March of 2017 (only two down total since going to Phillip). Double clear at Kentucky and clear jumping at WEG in 2018 plus a win at the test event. That's more than enough for me to say that horse absolutely deserves to be at the top of anyone's list. The fact that he's young is an added plus. There were moments in his WEG dressage test where you could really see how much more that horse is capable of. Yes he had some unattractive rounds, but he produces results.

              Long Island T is on the development list, which seems fitting since he's a less experienced horse who finished the 2018 season strong with long format form. I wouldn't say he's currently at the top of anyone's list, but that's kind of the point of the development group. Identifying talented horses on an upward trajectory that show team potential, see how the develop (hence the name), and weigh them against their peers.

              Hallie Coon is on the "Developing Potential List", which appears to be aimed specifically at the younger, less experienced riders. I was impressed with her at Pau, but she did have ~25 time penalties and three down so I'd say she's placed on the correct tier.

              At the end of the day, all of this is going to shuffle around over the next couple of years. If I was on any of these lists, I'd feel good about my shot at a team. The current breakout across tiers is just a reflection of where everyone stands at this moment in time.


                And all this is apparently in service to the stated goal of an Olympic podium finish in...

                ... 2028.

                As someone who designs and writes selection criteria and policy documents in another Olympic sport, I can't even begin to understand the thinking by these HP Eventing luminaries. It's bad enough that they've taken to anointing themselves things like 'Universal Eventing Expert' but then you get to the part about aiming for the podium in eight years and you're wondering why someone hasn't staged an intervention.

                There's a theory in astrophysics that when matter gets sucked into a black hole that it slows down via some kind of time warping powers and then maybe the black hole regurgitates it sometime in the future but perhaps not into the future that was expected. I'm no astrophysicist but this seems to me like what's happening in Team USA HP Eventing.


                  Originally posted by JER View Post
                  And all this is apparently in service to the stated goal of an Olympic podium finish in...

                  ... 2028.
                  Wheelchair eventing ?

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