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  • Tack failures at WEG

    Reins split and one lost mid ride and recovered, but caused the flopping of 1/2 the running martingale the rest of the ride, breast plate breaking away from the girth, noseband flying about as the horse completes the course, lost bell boots (3 different horses), lost brushing boot, 2 cases of what seemed to be SMB boots coming un done mid course, but not coming off (thankfully).

    Is this par for the course at a high level event?

    Honest question, I've not watched much of this level of competition and was curious as to if this was a regular occurrence.

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    Lost bell boots are pretty normal.

    The noseband is unusual.

    Reins sometimes. Breatplates and martingales sometimes.

    SMB I would bet are not being worn by any eventers at this level. What you likely noticed was the electricians tape that is applied over the Velcro coming undone. That happens sometimes.

    Blugal

    You never know what kind of obsessive compulsive crazy person you are until another person imitates your behaviour at a three-day. --Gry2Yng

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      Blugal The bell boots I agree with, I watched 2 different horses as they lost them. One was in the water complex after jumping the boat, but before the waterfall. I wondered if someone on the ground would collect it before the next horse went through.

      The nose band seemed broken, not just slipped off.

      I didn't get to see the rider on the previous jumps (I believe he was riding for Japan) to notice how the end of the reins became separated. He slipped his reins after a large jump with a drop on the other side. His horse took an ever so slight bobble? which caused the reins to be pulled slightly out of his hands. His eyes were on the upcoming jump a few strides out. He reached down to regain the rein and it wasn't there. It slipped completely free and out of the running martingale before he could regain it.

      The two boots I saw loose were the large flapping velcro at the lower part of the leg, one front one rear on different horses. Neither of those horses seemed to have tape around the other parts of the boot. The horse that had lost his brushing boot did not seem to have any tape on the one still on.

      I did notice several riders that did have tape on their brushing boots.

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      • #4
        From Eventing Nation: SAVE OF THE DAY. Robin GOdel and Grandeur de Lully CH. Photo by Leslie Threlkeld.
        (how does the snap to the girth come undone?)
        "When I look back on my life, the times I have been stingy or unappreciative haunt me. I don't regret one instance of generosity." --PeteyPie

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        • #5
          I have a horse that pulls bell boots like no tomorrow. He is an exuberant jumper. I clearly recall jumping out of a water bank to one stride and seeing my bell boot flying past us....and also once he stepped on a gummy one and fell to his knees at a canter, then came up bucking like no tomorrow. “WHO DO THAT I KILL YOU!”

          better than a huge huge cut to his fetlock. But unnerving!

          Tack malfunctions, Someone in showjumping had a rubber bit break during their round in the 00s in the Olympics. I mean when you are kind enough to jump 1.6m in a rubber full cheek you don’t expect it to snap and leave you bitless at the Olympics.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by keysfins View Post
            From Eventing Nation: SAVE OF THE DAY. Robin GOdel and Grandeur de Lully CH. Photo by Leslie Threlkeld.
            (how does the snap to the girth come undone?)
            Most jumper riders tape those girth carabiners as they are well known to catch shoes and cause horse falls! A snap down there is kind of reckless!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post

              Tack malfunctions, Someone in showjumping had a rubber bit break during their round in the 00s in the Olympics. I mean when you are kind enough to jump 1.6m in a rubber full cheek you don’t expect it to snap and leave you bitless at the Olympics.
              I believe that was McLain Ward on Sapphire, maybe at Athens? Somebody took a spectacular picture of them, still at the canter, just as it had happened. You could see the identical look on both of their faces. “What the...!?!?!”

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              • #8
                The thread that had the XC portion of the pony finals in Europe, one girl lost a stirrup at about jump 4. The stirrup leather broke and she rode the rest of XC with one stirrup.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ajierene View Post
                  The thread that had the XC portion of the pony finals in Europe, one girl lost a stirrup at about jump 4. The stirrup leather broke and she rode the rest of XC with one stirrup.
                  Just like Mark Todd did at Badminton one year.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BAC View Post

                    Just like Mark Todd did at Badminton one year.
                    Yeah, except she was like 12 so it was more like that kid without ski poles that skiied down to me, quick U Turn, handed me the ski pole I lost and skiied away....I'm not mad.....

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                    • #11
                      We were joking that the Japanese needed a new tack sponsor. 1 with broken reins and 1 with a busted noseband

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                      • #12
                        The buckle of the reins is one of the weakest point in your tack. I have seen on multiple occasions--at big events including Ky3D--reins break at the buckle down a drop. Many riders have extra long reins and put a knot in the end. (It's a Wofford thing.) It's also the key to getting your reins back in a stride or two: slip reins, one hand grabs the knot and pulls back toward their ear, then grab both reins at the correct length with the other. Here's Colleen Rutledge demonstrating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R6HR0eSjCo

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                        • #13
                          The ULR I worked for didn't always knot them but she did tape the buckle closed. I thought that was standard-- I know it was suggested at the T3D.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by subk View Post
                            The buckle of the reins is one of the weakest point in your tack. I have seen on multiple occasions--at big events including Ky3D--reins break at the buckle down a drop. Many riders have extra long reins and put a knot in the end. (It's a Wofford thing.) It's also the key to getting your reins back in a stride or two: slip reins, one hand grabs the knot and pulls back toward their ear, then grab both reins at the correct length with the other. Here's Colleen Rutledge demonstrating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R6HR0eSjCo
                            Whoever videoed the first 20 seconds of that should be shot.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by keysfins View Post
                              From Eventing Nation: SAVE OF THE DAY. Robin GOdel and Grandeur de Lully CH. Photo by Leslie Threlkeld.
                              (how does the snap to the girth come undone?)
                              From the photo sequence it looked (to me) like the horse bellied the table, so that's likely to have broken or released the snap at the girth.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by subk View Post
                                The buckle of the reins is one of the weakest point in your tack. I have seen on multiple occasions--at big events including Ky3D--reins break at the buckle down a drop. Many riders have extra long reins and put a knot in the end. (It's a Wofford thing.) It's also the key to getting your reins back in a stride or two: slip reins, one hand grabs the knot and pulls back toward their ear, then grab both reins at the correct length with the other. Here's Colleen Rutledge demonstrating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R6HR0eSjCo
                                Well, I can sympathize because it just happened to me a few weeks ago! Walking around on a loose rein, dropped the reins onto horse's neck to slip on a glove--look down, no reins. They are dangling towards the ground. Moved forward to try to grab bridle, horse took off. I went flying first jump forward. Broken right thumb, lots of bruises, sore spots. I was lucky, but am just too old for this crap. Reins were in great shape. The tongue of the buckle broke off--no rust, it just broke.

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                                • #17
                                  Always tape the buckle ends on the reins. It is so easy for them to come undone and very difficult to get back! I also sometimes tape the breastplate attachment, depending on how it attaches- some girths have snaps, some leather loops, and none are really strong enough to withstand a hard rub on a jump or a kick. Taping helps secure the strap and also protects from the (freak but not unheard of) possibility of a shoe getting caught in the snap.

                                  Brushing boots and bell boots aren’t super uncommon to lose, either, especially if the horse crawls over a fence. I don’t like taping boots because I’d rather have one come off entirely than slip but be taped on and cause further injury.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by MHM View Post

                                    I believe that was McLain Ward on Sapphire, maybe at Athens? Somebody took a spectacular picture of them, still at the canter, just as it had happened. You could see the identical look on both of their faces. “What the...!?!?!”
                                    and

                                    Reminiscent of Charmaine James and Scamper, nine times NFR Barrel Racing Champios, who had the bridle break midrun, and completed the pattern in good time with just the reins around Scamper's neck, headstall/bit dangling on his chest.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Blugal View Post
                                      Lost bell boots are pretty normal.


                                      SMB I would bet are not being worn by any eventers at this level. What you likely noticed was the electricians tape that is applied over the Velcro coming undone. That happens sometimes.
                                      Yup I highly doubt anyone was using SMB. But I did do a double take at the comment lol

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