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  • WEG Pollution

    I knew WEG was a cluster f*ck, but that doesn't mean they can pollute the entire surrounding area...

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    Lol! Ridiculous. Have you ever been around creeks like that after there is heavy rain? That is what they look like. A few days without heavy rain, the sediment will settle back down. Chill.

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    • #3
      Um in case you haven't heard, they're having a lot of rain down in the South and will be having a lot more. I would be slightly more sympathetic to the post if this was a month or so ago. But right now you've got a massive storm blowing through North and South Carolina, cities some may get upwards of 20-40 inches of rain. This guys meter will probably go off the charts by the end of the weekend. Maybe you can vent to a forum in CA where they are polluting public streets with tons of human feces. .

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      • #4
        Somebody actually put on surgical gloves to take a picture of a muddy creek?

        Somebody's never been South before!



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          #5
          This post is from the oldest environmental non-profit in Western North Carolina. They monitor water quality throughout western north carolina. One photo is taken upstream of TIEC, and the second is taken downstream of TIEC. The storm would effect both measurement locations. Drinking water should measure less than 5 NTUs. Water upstream of TIEC measures 13.3 NTUs, and water down steam maxes out the reader to 999 NTUs.

          The surgical gloves are normal procedures in sample collection.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by NotaPonyDoc View Post
            This post is from the oldest environmental non-profit in Western North Carolina. They monitor water quality throughout western north carolina. One photo is taken upstream of TIEC, and the second is taken downstream of TIEC. The storm would effect both measurement locations. Drinking water should measure less than 5 NTUs. Water upstream of TIEC measures 13.3 NTUs, and water down steam maxes out the reader to 999 NTUs.

            The surgical gloves are normal procedures in sample collection.
            And on their own page they have a river looking the same from months ago. But no one waltzing out with a meter.

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            • #7
              WEG is unlikely to be the only large collection of domestic animals with excessive drainage into that creek and river system. Theres plenty to pile on WEG for without this.
              When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

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              • #8
                yes, I read somewhere that with all this flooding there was concern about pig poo in the watershed, not to mention when all this flooding happens all kinds of stanky things get in the water.

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                • #9
                  OP (and the Riverkeeper) is correct, that is a violation of the NC turbidity standard. I work in aquatic resources in NC. No, that is not a normal turbidity level for that watershed, not even close- >999 NTU is astronomical, even for runoff. That is obvious runoff of unstabilized upland sediment. Thanks to those who reported & documented using standard methods. Whatever the source, it should be investigated & addressed for compliance.

                  Re hog waste - also a huge problem, although primarily in the Coastal Plain, not this watershed, along with other hazardous materials introduced (some even deliberately) during flooding. All need attention, but the presence of one contaminant does not mean we should ignore another.

                  ??????Everyone's drinking water is downstream of something - we all have a stake in aquatic health.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NotaPonyDoc View Post
                    This post is from the oldest environmental non-profit in Western North Carolina. They monitor water quality throughout western north carolina. One photo is taken upstream of TIEC, and the second is taken downstream of TIEC. The storm would effect both measurement locations. Drinking water should measure less than 5 NTUs. Water upstream of TIEC measures 13.3 NTUs, and water down steam maxes out the reader to 999 NTUs.

                    The surgical gloves are normal procedures in sample collection.
                    According to their website, Mountain True was founded and became a non-profit in 2015. I assume there isn't many environmental non-profits in Western North Carolina.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Littleluck55 View Post

                      According to their website, Mountain True was founded and became a non-profit in 2015. I assume there isn't many environmental non-profits in Western North Carolina.
                      OP may be referring to the Riverkeeper Alliance, which is much older. There are actually numerous environmental NGOs statewide, and the highest proportion of those are in the western part of the state due to proximity to the Appalachians and Brook Trout waters.
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                      • #12
                        A friend is having this same problem with her pond due to home construction on the acreage next to her. The developers are using silt fences and straw bales, but it hasn't been enough.

                        The video I saw of the endurance looked like an unfinished construction site. Mud and water running everywhere. It's no wonder it's getting into the local streams.

                        This doesn't seem to have much to do with the horses or the fact that it's an equestrian facility... just any time you tear up the ground, you have to deal with erosion and runoff. When I had the front of my property cleared and graded, they had to seed and then blow chopped hay over all of it after they were done.
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                        • #13
                          Correct, if the source is TIEC, unless they are riding horses in the stream (also very damaging), the cause would be failure to adequately design/maintain sedimentation/erosion control measures onsite, no different from any other land-disturbing activity, including trail routing & construction.
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                          • #14
                            From the Eventing cross country footage today, I saw several places that had disturbed soil, hill sides, etc and no silt fencing in place. I also noticed on area that seemed to have been hydroseeded, but had not yet sprouted that did not have silt fencing in place.

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                            • #15
                              I have a question. Are there concrete containment dumping sites for manure..... as they have been required for quite some time in South Florida?

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by findeight View Post
                                WEG is unlikely to be the only large collection of domestic animals with excessive drainage into that creek and river system. Theres plenty to pile on WEG for without this.
                                The issue is that Bellissimo has violated federal and state mandates for containment of his runoff due to construction? Saying there is Pig Poo also isn't the issue. This is run off due to his failure to comply. Manure runoff became such an issue down in WPB that concrete bunkers have been mandated , at least on private farms. As a native Floridian, I weep for the choloform blooms which we are experiencing due partially to this exact issue. It is very sad to me that both States have burgeoning tourism industry.... because of our beautiful waterways and beaches. These things shouldn't be mutually exclusive.

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                                  #17
                                  https://www.citizen-times.com/story/...er/1336955002/

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                                  • #18
                                    Thanks for sharing that article, OP. It is largely accurate from the WQ front, except that turbidity can be measured at any time, but DEQ would only consider it a violation if there was a runoff or discharge event.
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