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Modified Division- your thoughts?

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  • Modified Division- your thoughts?

    I'm curious what people's experiences with the Modified division have been. Specifically, XC. A little more complex than Training? Or closer to a Prelim course?

    I just did the Maryland Horse Trials last weekend. The stadium (set at 3'5", of course) was the same as Prelim but they removed one element of the A B C combination. There was a 1 stride, and a 2 stride. There was a liverpool (with an option). The XC was much closer to Prelim than Training. A couple of the combinations were the A B with the removal of the C that was in Prelim. There was a jump in the water. 2 combinations with very steep terrain between (definitely wouldn't fly in Training), a 3 stride bending line.

    Other people in other areas have courses they want to share?

  • #2
    I’ve walked three so far (including MDHT). All I thought were what they should be. In between Prelim and training. More than a beefy training so if I had to say...closer to Prelim but a little more soft. More like a soft Prelim that we all used to look for to move up.
    ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **


    • #3
      I think it's in between in a good way. Agree MDHT last weekend was closer to the prelim (though, in fairness, their training was really soft, and it also had a jump in the water which I hadn't seen at training before). MCTA modified shared most of its jumps with training, but its training was much bigger than MDHT.


      • #4
        I ran Modified at Queeny Park last month, it was earlier in the season than I wanted (my horse only had 3 Training runs) but it was the only Modified I could get to this year. I am glad we did it, she really stepped up but the course felt like a tough training to me, not a soft Prelim. There were a few shared jumps with T, a rail on top of fence 2 came off for T and brush was cut down on another. This venue no longer offers Prelim so they were able to re-purpose a lot of old P jumps for the M xc without spending tons of money. They only had 5 or 6 entries - apparently people didn't enter because points/qualifications don't count for that division (no year-end awards or AECs) - I just wanted the experience. I thought the dressage test was the toughest phase for us - that leg yield to X and then back to the rail, I'm not quite there yet!
        Video clips of the course:


        • #5
          Honestly.....there really is not much difference between training and Prelim so to say it was like a strong training or a soft Prelim really is saying the same thing. It will just be a matter of the individuals perspective. But with the different Dressage, speed and stadium, it really is a level in between.....and different from the PTs that was the only option before.
          ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **


          • Original Poster

            Originally posted by bornfreenowexpensive View Post
            Honestly.....there really is not much difference between training and Prelim so to say it was like a strong training or a soft Prelim really is saying the same thing. It will just be a matter of the individuals perspective.
            I'm going to heartily disagree with you on that one. The gap from Training to Prelim in XC complexity is quite large.


            • #7
              Originally posted by mdp9 View Post

              I'm going to heartily disagree with you on that one. The gap from Training to Prelim in XC complexity is quite large.
              I agree that the gap between T and P is quite large as well. It's a hard move-up, one that many people struggle with.

              I think the Modified division makes a lot of sense, especially in regard to the new FEI star levels. I wish someone in Area 5 would offer it.


              • #8
                Originally posted by mdp9 View Post

                I'm going to heartily disagree with you on that one. The gap from Training to Prelim in XC complexity is quite large.
                I’ve moved up across that gap a few times..over the years (first time was actually the easiest—I was young and dumb). I don’t think it is a large gap...but I didn’t say it was easy. I actually think the difference between Novice and Training is technically a much bigger jump.

                It USED to be a bigger gap in the technicality for xc....but that isn’t the case any more IMO as training has gotten much more technical. It is a bigger step up in dressage and SJ though but still not as huge of a gap as people make it out. Modified is a good division....But there really isn’t much between a modified and either prelim or training...and that was the point. It is a step up from Training and a step down from Prelim...that’s the point.
                ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **