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  • Area 2 Training courses

    Plotting out my spring schedule and was looking for feedback on a couple of training courses in Area 2. Specifically CDCTA (this is the 2nd year at the new site?) - omnibus says big, solid and gallopy - was it the same last year?
    And MCTA - what do you usually see here? Omnibus says true representation of the level but confidence building.

    Thanks for any information on these events!

  • #2
    Not competed, but walked both and attended many times. CDCTA does tend to have solid jumps on the bigger side, but it is not an overly technical course. Even in the new place it is pretty open and gallopy.

    MCTA is also a more classic, galloping course as most occurs on the flat racecourse infield and then you head up the hill briefly. They utilize the terrain a bit more, because they have more. They have a nice water complex and ditch complex, but I don't believe they use a trak at training level.

    Really both are the same type of courses so I would say doing one leads to the other.


    • #3
      I ran the Training at CDCTA in Fall of 2016, which was the first year they moved to the new facility. It was a very soft Training level- way softer than was described in the omnibus! Also, there is no terrain- flat as a pancake. It was a nice gallopy, flowy course and we enjoyed it. The stadium was in an odd location with very small warmup, but they may have moved it since then?


      • #4
        MCTA does have a trak for training level and it's a bit spooky bc the horses don't see the ditch until the last 2 strides. It's a solid training with 2 waters, tough ditch complex (caught out a bunch of riders last year) and last year they had a sizeable bank up to a skinny. However the course flows really nicely and rewards forward riding, which my thoroughbred thrives on. I would definitely do it if the timing worked out for me. one thing to note is that dressage and sj are on grass, and most of all of it is low lying ground that doesn't drain super well.


        • #5
          I haven't run the T at MCTA in a few years, but it was fairly tough the last time I did.

          I ran Training at CDCTA last spring and thought the course was quite soft both in size of the fences and difficulty. As Ducati said, absolutely flat. They moved the SJ to a new location last fall, but I'm not sure if they'll keep it there this year.


          • #6
            I haven't run training at CDCTA since they moved, so can't speak for it now (it WAS big, solid, and gallopy. A nice course if you have a bold but green horse). I think MCTA is similar. I remember it being big and gallopy, but not too terribly technical. Show jumping is the tough part at MCTA....but, again, it has been a few years since I've done it.


            • #7
              I love the mcta courses but it is often very, very muddy for SJ in particular. I agree on cdcta at new location - ran novice first year and walked training. Very soft, very flat.
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              • #8
                Just to update this thread, I ran CDCTA this spring and found the course surprisingly very solid. A few max fences, a large bank jump down to a fence, gallop thru the water to an up bank, a full coffin (biggest ditch I ever rode) and the final fence was a big, airy trackhener. I really thought it was not a fair fence to have as your last, especially an early season course but oh well. I guess the course designer didn't think so! Stadium was super tight and had a lot of rails and a few falls. I would not recommend this course for a first time training!


                • #9
                  I agree that it's a big, solid course, with some tough fences/combos for being so early in the season. You forgot the enormous jump that was the first jump! That said, for some reason my horse loves this course and does very well on it, with a nice, gallopy run. We were there last year and this year, and the courses were different. There did seem to be way more than the usual number of rails in stadium this year, but I didn't think it was "super tight".


                  • #10
                    I schooled at MCTA last week. Holy crap what the hell was that Modified coffin??

                    Someone please tell me they have a photo of it. It was awkward at best, dangerous at worst.


                    • #11
                      I rode MCTA modified (in the downpour . . ) and I do have a pic of the coffin, just trying to figure out how to add it.
                      For the record, I think MCTA is more comparable to the CDCTA Locust Grove location. The new CDCTA location is not quite as gallopy and while getting a bit tougher (it started off very soft and is now more average) I don't think it's as big as MCTA.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Beam Me Up View Post
                        I rode MCTA modified (in the downpour . . ) and I do have a pic of the coffin, just trying to figure out how to add it.
                        For the record, I think MCTA is more comparable to the CDCTA Locust Grove location. The new CDCTA location is not quite as gallopy and while getting a bit tougher (it started off very soft and is now more average) I don't think it's as big as MCTA.

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                        Yeah I just think that is a terribly weird A element. Put some brush in there or something!