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    I'm wondering if I have to use a speciality treeless saddle pad with my synthetic treeless saddle or if a normal fleece English pad would also be acceptable? This is the saddle I have. Thank you!

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    A standard fleece pad doesn't offer the right support for a treeless saddle. Your horse will probably have back problems down the road if you don't get a well made treeless saddle pad (I've used skito and ecogold with great success). The design and type of pad you use depends on rider weight/average length of ride, and purpose for the pad. The reps for the companies should be able to steer you in the right direction. They are expensive, but well worth the investment.

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      That saddle has no channel or spine clearance at all and is made specifically to use with a saddle pad that provides it. Look at HAF pads, they make one for the predecessor or that saddle called the Freeform. You could also get away with a western channel pad.
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        I have this one that I used with my Freeform and I added 1/2" felted wool inserts cut from another pad because I felt that the foam provided was too compressible to maintain clearance under my weight.

        I've had this pad for over a decade and use it regularly as a schooling pad under my hunt saddle. It wears like iron.

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          I have been researching treeless pads (I have a Bob Marshall western trail)....the Toklat Matrix Shim Pad FlexForm pad seems to be right up there with the Skito treeless pad...it has the the impact memory foam and removable/adjustable shims.....any thoughts????

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          • #6
            HAF, Matrix (with ortho-impact inserts), Skito, Equipedic - all the top choices for treeless pads
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            • #7
              I have a Freedom Riding Articles western pad for treeless saddles. It is shim-able too. It is my favourite pad for general use.
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                I use a Skito pad with my Barefoot Tahoe. Just don't leave it outside. The squirrels like to rip them to shreds. I found the entire contents od my Skito pad in my saddlebags once. Wasn't sure whether to laugh, cry, or go on a squirrel hunt....

                Don't skimp on the pad.

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                • #9
                  I am curious about your saddle. Do you have a link to where you got it?
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                  • #10
                    A this very, very cheap treeless (they're all over ebay, if you search for treeless saddles!) is more like a glorified bareback pad and won't protect your horses' back at all, I would suggest you get a high end, quality specialized treeless pad and even with that ride moderately, preferably at a walk.This doesn't distribute pressure well at all and any weight in the stirrups causes acute pressure points across the spine. Using this with a normal English pad will ruin your horse. Good luck!

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                      Originally posted by Racing Photog View Post
                      I'm wondering if I have to use a speciality treeless saddle pad with my synthetic treeless saddle or if a normal fleece English pad would also be acceptable? This is the saddle I have. Thank you!
                      Depending upon how much time you want to spend in the saddle, for trail rides and none-endurance riding, a nice thick English saddle pad will work just fine. Granted, it won't hold you up above the horse's spine, but if the spine is protected by your horse's natural fat pads along the backbone - as most breeds are with the exception of the skinny Thoroughbred - you shouldn't have to worry. You want to see that spine sitting into the back like a trench flanked by two hills of fat and muscle. If it is, feel free to use your cushy pad. Don't use a super thin quilted pad - they are worthless for anything thing except collecting dirt and keeping the underside of the saddle clean.

                      BTW - nothing you put on a horse's back that you will sit on will distribute the pressure of your weight enough to make a profound difference. Nothing. Treed saddles press into the back on a relatively small platform of stiff rounded flocking contained by a leather covering. That platform is not much bigger than your own backside, and while the flocking does look longer from front to back, in reality it concentrates the weight in a tiny area dead center. Doesn't matter that much on how you sit on it, just where you sit on it. A treeless doesn't have those narrow concentrated sites - it allows for a slightly broader base of weight distribution that DOES matter on upon how you sit, and where you sit. Most of the pressure in a treed comes from the rider's weight in the center of the saddle. It prevents weight pressure from fluctuating, but leads to very sore backs (both horse AND rider) by constant, unrelenting pressure in a small area. Most of the pressure in a treeless comes from the point where the stirrups connect and the fluctuating weight of the rider when standing or posting. Keep this in mind and pad (and ride) accordingly.
                      Last edited by gothedistance; Mar. 18, 2018, 06:49 AM.

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                        Originally posted by gothedistance View Post

                        Depending upon how much time you want to spend in the saddle, for trail rides and none-endurance riding, a nice thick English saddle pad will work just fine. Granted, it won't hold you up above the horse's spine, but if the spine is protected by your horse's natural fat pads along the backbone - as most breeds are with the exception of the skinny Thoroughbred - you shouldn't have to worry. You want to see that spine sitting into the back like a trench flanked by two hills of fat and muscle. If it is, feel free to use your cushy pad. Don't use a super thin quilted pad - they are worthless for anything thing except collecting dirt and keeping the underside of the saddle clean.

                        BTW - nothing you put on a horse's back that you will sit on will distribute the pressure of your weight enough to make a profound difference. Nothing. Treed saddles press into the back on a relatively small platform of stiff rounded flocking contained by a leather covering. That platform is not much bigger than your own backside, and while the flocking does look longer from front to back, in reality it concentrates the weight in a tiny area dead center. Doesn't matter that much on how you sit on it, just where you sit on it. A treeless doesn't have those narrow concentrated sites - it allows for a slightly broader base of weight distribution that DOES matter on upon how you sit, and where you sit. Most of the pressure in a treed comes from the rider's weight in the center of the saddle. It prevents weight pressure from fluctuating, but leads to very sore backs (both horse AND rider) by constant, unrelenting pressure in a small area. Most of the pressure in a treeless comes from the point where the stirrups connect and the fluctuating weight of the rider when standing or posting. Keep this in mind and pad (and ride) accordingly.
                        Totally agree. I used regular pads for a decade and didn't have problems. The beauty of a treeless saddle is once it warms up it forms to the horse's back. In over 50 years with horses I've seen more problems with treed saddles.
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