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Using a bit without a bridle?

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  • Using a bit without a bridle?


    Scroll halfway down to see the Meroth Leatherbit.

    I wonder how many horses would actually like that?

    Just found this link to a photo of what the bit looks like after some use:

  • #2
    I guess it is a modern version of the Indian War Bridle? IDK if would work or not or if my horse would like it or not but I'm not going to be the first one in my area to try it....
    "My biggest fear is that when I die my husband is going to try to sell all my horses and tack for what I told him they cost."


    • Original Poster

      LOL, me neither!


      • #4
        I can just imagine slimey, gummey leather that molds.


        • #5
          I'm pretty sure that both of mine would hate this. I would hate it too- just thinking about keeping it clean makes me cringe.
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          • #6
            Just from where I stand I can see if you fell and held onto the reins and your horse 'tried' to keep going he would wind up with a severly broken jaw.
            No. for safety reasons alone.
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            • #7
              There is a piece of traditional Paso Fino tack called a jetera that is similar in design.


              Pasos are usually started bitless, and this is used to begin the bitting phase of training.


              • #8
                Wouldn't the leather irritate the skin around the mouth wrinkles?

                Not being smooth like a regular bit, I mean.
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                • #9
                  My friend makes these, as a possible alternative:




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                  • #10
                    I only know of one trainer that has used a jetera. Most go directly from the Columbian bosal to a 3 jointed paso bit.

                    I do know on horse that had his tongue severed froma Jetara. Not something I would use


                    • #11
                      Does your friend own Sunset Halters? I love that store!
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                      • #12
                        Kind of random, but I used to ride with a trainer who had an awesome leather bit that the horses loved. It was a big D-ring with a THICK slightly shaped rectangular leather piece in the middle. I remember using it mostly on young hunters. It was a wonderful, soft bit that the horses loved. Has anyone seen one of these? I'd love to have one in my collection


                        • #13
                          Harness racers use a leather overcheck bit in addition to whatever other hardware the horse wears: http://www.finntack.com/Product.aspx?ItemID=13540
                          My understanding of the overcheck is to keep the horse from being able to throw his head down.... I just can't imagine using just the leather bit though...I can just imagine a horse deciding to chew his bit in two...yikes!
                          "My biggest fear is that when I die my husband is going to try to sell all my horses and tack for what I told him they cost."


                          • #14
                            I've seen leather bits used. They were mostly old horse-folks though.


                            • #15
                              It's not dissimilar to something I improvised and used on a horse that was horrifically head shy and who had previously had head injury.

                              It worked and played a part in her remedial training and transition to being a normal sane horse.

                              What made me smirk though is the "Barefoot, bitless bridle" label.

                              I often joke and describe some of the goofier new order female owners as "Barefoot, bra-less, witless & bitless ". That could be a catchy name for another product


                              • #16
                                Thomas 1, your post made me laugh! That is very funny!
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                                • #17
                                  Barefoot, bitless, treeless - but most definitely not braless here.


                                  • #18
                                    call me an oldster then...if you dare.

                                    We had those leather bits at the hunting stable where I learned to ride. We used them for retraining OTTB's the odd time. They were hung from a regular headstall and not used on their own, unlike a war bridle, some versions of which are simply a loop of leather thong tied in the mouth below the jaw with no headstall. Yes, you needed to let them hang and dry after use- like any other leather tack that gets wet and we would condition them with vegetable oil, which the horses seemed to like. We also used rubber mullens for the same reason. The are very forgiving and a totally different feel than a regular racing biut and it made the horses focus more on us than what they had been taught on the track- to grab the bit and run.
                                    War bridles make a horse very controllable- if they use the traditional thong, which is thinner than a bit, it does impress the horses a lot and they are generally quite submissive to them. Leather bits or rubber bits, not so much, as they are thicker and milder than a war bridle.
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