• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Update on the boy and new photos/videos

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Update on the boy and new photos/videos

    Andre is just turning into a darned nice horse. He's going great on the trail with geldings - haven't introduced mares yet. He rides at home bareback in a halter. The other day I was on him bareback and 3 turkeys flew out of the woods. He just stood there and watched them go. I haven't seen him spook once yet and he has a really great work ethic. He's getting into good shape though he has a way to go. He knows all his ground work almost to perfection and rides mostly off leg at this point.

    He now self loads in the trailer, goes over tarps, water, road crossings, handles dogs and wildlife, cows, mock vet checks, and anything else you can throw at him. He's happy to lead, follow, or just get out of the way on the trail, and like his sister he's loaded with get up and go. There isn't a nervous bone in his body. He eats and drinks away from home like a super star.

    I've had him a year and though I've taken it very slowly with him, I feel he has a great base in terms of training and conditioning and am so excited for the summer!

    He'll breed one mare this year and he's also been a super star for learning artificial hand collecting, so that was a huge accomplishment for him too. (This is not any sort of advertisement because he is booked for one mare and that's all we're doing at this time. I want the focus to be on training.)

    Just a happy update on the greatest guy I know!

    http://www.hphoofcare.com/AndreCanterSmall.jpg

    http://www.hphoofcare.com/AndreWalkFall%2009.jpg (sorry, I tried to photoshop the shavings out of his tail but clearly I'm not very talented with the program. lol)

    http://www.hphoofcare.com/WinterBarebackSmall.jpg

    http://www.hphoofcare.com/WinterHalter.jpg

    http://www.hphoofcare.com/AndreVicOct09.jpg]

    VIDEOS:

    Fun with the jolly ball:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etYguZjt8XA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn41Z...eature=channel

    Just going down the trail
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3gQe...eature=channel

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elg1X...eature=channel

  • #2
    Thanks for the update - you and your boy look like you are having a blast. He is so beautiful! You are going to have a wonderful spring and summer.

    Comment


    • #3
      A2, how tall is he? He looks a lot leggier than I remember in the first pictures you posted.

      Comment

      • Original Poster

        #4
        He's about 15.2. She told me he was 15.3 but he had very overgrown hooves Maybe he's 15.2 and a 1/2 inch. I can't remember. I'd have to stick him again. He's learned to use himself better, and he's also gained about 100 lbs. But yes, he has very long legs.

        This was the VERY first pic I posted of him from the day I went to look at him:
        http://www.hphoofcare.com/k1.jpg

        And this was the day I brought him home:
        http://www.hphoofcare.com/An2.jpg


        Thanks prudence, I'm enjoying him so much!

        Comment


        • #5
          Wow- he looks really good!!
          "As soon as you're born you start dyin'
          So you might as well have a good time"

          Comment


          • #6
            He'll breed one mare this year and he's also been a super star for learning artificial hand collecting, so that was a huge accomplishment for him too.
            Why does a person teach a stallion who is only breeding one mare and and may never breed again, (as you state, based on his performance in the future), to "artificially hand collect"? That suggests that you are going to have such demand that you will need to ship semen?

            Boggles my mind. WHY would you do that? Even at a place like I'm at, where we have 11 stallions, anyone who breeds for frozen or to the phantom is ALWAYS the same person so the stud ONLY associates THAT person with breeding that way. Trainers just wouldn't do that, as their job needs to be totally separate in the stallion's mind. Why is it so important to begin introducing artificial collection to a horse that hasn't bred naturally yet?

            Have you ever bred a virgin stallion? It isn't always really successful the first time. The mare has to be patient. I hope he has enough instinct to get it done the natural way even after, whatever it is you've been teaching him.

            I rarely visit this forum but was looking for some boot suggestions and came across this.

            I'm really just floored by this part of the post.

            If I've misunderstood, please feel free to set me straight.

            NJR
            Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behaviour does.

            Comment

            • Original Poster

              #7
              For god sake, can I not just post a happy update on a horse without being attacked? FOR ONCE?

              The horse was taught to ground collect so he could have semen evaluation to see if shipping (freezing/cooling) semen is even a possibility for him, which extenders work the best, motility, etc. We need this information for a baseline. Myself, and the repo vet I hired to train him decided to forego the dummy because she has just had very good luck with ground collecting. Some horses learn it easily and some do not. If he doesn't have to mount a dummy, I would prefer he didn't just to save wear and tear on the stifles. If we did end up having to go that route, that would be fine, but he was extremely trainable and willing to ground collect.

              A "trainer" didn't have anything to do with it. She's a vet who specializes in reproduction and that is the majority of her business.

              And the horse was a herd stallion that did live breeding for years before I bought him.
              Last edited by Auventera Two; Mar. 25, 2010, 08:40 AM. Reason: spelling

              Comment


              • #8
                For god sake, can I not just post a happy update on a horse without being attacked? FOR ONCE?
                That wasn't an attack, that was a straight forward questioning of your practices. From your post above, they seem very BYB at worst, downright wacky at best. It's not like I'm going to go back and research your history first.

                If this guy was a herd stallion don't you already have evidence of what he throws?

                If I recall correctly, didn't you say when you first got him that you had no intention of breeding him? Or am I mixing you up with some other poster? I'm sure you used to post on other boards on this forum, as I rarely come to this one.

                Again, it's not an attack, and if you think it is, perhaps you might examine your own feelings as to why you feel so "attacked" all the time? This is a discussion forum, after all.

                NJR
                Your beliefs don't make you a better person, your behaviour does.

                Comment


                • #9
                  What a beautiful arab! you don't see them with substance like you used to, or they are harder to find(good quality) striking boy you have.....

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    He certainly is shiny. Good job.
                    Last edited by mp; Mar. 24, 2010, 06:25 PM. Reason: typo
                    __________________________
                    "... if you think i'm MAD, today, of all days,
                    the best day in ten years,
                    you are SORELY MISTAKEN, MY LITTLE ANCHOVY."

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Lets not have a train wreck. It sounded aggressive to me.

                      Welcome back, AT, look forward to more posts. He's lovely.
                      ********
                      There is no snooze button on a cat that wants breakfast.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bank of Dad View Post
                        Lets not have a train wreck. It sounded aggressive to me.

                        Welcome back, AT, look forward to more posts. He's lovely.

                        I agree. On all counts.

                        Lovely Arab--just like Sweets

                        Comment

                        • Original Poster

                          #13
                          NJR - it was definitely a slam against my "practices" as you call them. I don't know what "practice" you are referring to. A reproductive specialist vet training a stallion to ground collect so that a semen analysis can be done is "wacky?" I'm not looking to find out "what he throws." We need to know if his semen is of sufficient quality to cool and ship, and if so, which extenders work best. I need to know motility rate as well. He will be artificially bred so it's pretty important to get the analysis first and do the prerequisite testing and training, don't you think? I don't have any interest in live breeding for a variety of reasons. And I did not say that I have no interest in ever breeding the horse. I said I wanted to give it time and see how he develops, how trainable and rideable he is, how he goes on the trail, and so forth. He's breeding 1 mare this year. He's had a foal with her, that turned out to be a real gem, so the mare's owner would like another chance at a great baby. If he does well at endurance rides, I will advertise him for the following year, but we're a ways off from that yet. Good lord. Just lay off already.

                          He's a great guy in every way. He's been such a wonderful addition to the farm! Thanks everyone for the nice words.

                          Comment

                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Miss J View Post
                            What a beautiful arab! you don't see them with substance like you used to, or they are harder to find(good quality) striking boy you have.....
                            I've been noticing that too. Arabians with substantial bone and substance, big feet, and tall, seem to be more difficult to find. At least around here anyway. I do really like his heavier style. I trim a lot of Arabs and he probably has the most bone and substance of any of them I see. Of course many people don't like that, so it's strictly personal preference.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Very handsome boy....
                              MnToBe Twinkle Star: "Twinkie"
                              http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...wo/009_17A.jpg

                              Proud member of the "Don't rush to kill wildlife" clique!

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                He looks great!

                                If you are comfortable whipping out the camera on your second ride, that's a great sign - though I did get a bit nervous when you said "he never spooks!"
                                Publisher, http://www.endurance-101.com
                                Blog: http://blog.seattlepi.com/horsebytes/

                                Comment

                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  LOL, we were laughing at that later. Saying he never spooks seems like an open invitation for a spook doesn't it? Thankfully he hasn't yet, and it's been about 5 months since that video.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    He is very cute and very shiny, but I'm still confused.

                                    Why oh why are you breeding him? He appears to have a club foot, or is that the norm for all arab's these days?

                                    You told us when you first got him that you wouldn't breed him until he "proved" himself? Not sure what your criteria for proving himself is but has he done that yet?

                                    Didn't you just complain in another thread about going to an auction and seeing young horses go thru for cheap cheap cheap?

                                    Why would you put more foals on the ground? I sure hope you aren't going to breed him to your hot hot hot mare, with all the ulcers and stress problems.

                                    What is your breeding plan, your goals?

                                    Finally, I just have to ask, what does your husband think of the collecting practices? freaky.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      He's stunning! great job

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by RidingAllDay View Post
                                        He is very cute and very shiny, but I'm still confused.

                                        Why oh why are you breeding him? He appears to have a club foot, or is that the norm for all arab's these days?

                                        You told us when you first got him that you wouldn't breed him until he "proved" himself? Not sure what your criteria for proving himself is but has he done that yet?

                                        Didn't you just complain in another thread about going to an auction and seeing young horses go thru for cheap cheap cheap?

                                        Why would you put more foals on the ground? I sure hope you aren't going to breed him to your hot hot hot mare, with all the ulcers and stress problems.

                                        What is your breeding plan, your goals?

                                        Finally, I just have to ask, what does your husband think of the collecting practices? freaky.
                                        Club foot--the norm for Arabs these days? Where did you get THAT idea???

                                        You have asked some very odd questions here. What does the husband of anybody who breeds horses think of the collection means? Why do you care what her breeding plans are? Are you a professional and want to offer guidance? Or is there something else you are trying to do?

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X