• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Preparing for my first overnight - hi-ties?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Preparing for my first overnight - hi-ties?

    Will some of you experienced campers please help me decide on what type of tying or containment system to invest in. I really like the ide of the trailer tie system:
    http://www.ridingwarehouse.com/EasyC...ge-HTHTTS.html

    but the price of a picket line is much more appealing. The costs for my first LD are really adding up so I'd love to picket if it's safe, and something that isn't frowned upon. Having never, ever camped with horses before, I'll appreciate any advice you can give.

  • #2
    Easy tie or just tie to the trailer (risking some sleep loss) or a high line.

    We never leave ours out on a picket line over night-that's only for when you're watching them. We tie ours to trees or the trailer for the night. If we're out in the wilderness we use our battery operated fencer for grazing but that won't work as well for small spaces. Still tie them at night. Nothing worse than lying there in the dark wondering if you just heard your horses get loose and run off!
    “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.” Stephen R. Covey

    Comment


    • #3
      I did Competitive Trail rides for many years and always tied to the trailer with this set up:


      A piece of plywood to cover the wheel well and help prevent injury. Horse would lay down and never had a problem.
      "When life gives you scurvy, make lemonade."

      Comment

      • Original Poster

        #4
        Wow, what a relief! Thank you both for saving me some cash . I thought it was totally unacceptable to tie to teh trailer for some reason - remember, I keep thinking there are all of the rules that don't seem to exist in endurance!

        Comment


        • #5
          You may feel every move they make if you're sleeping in the trailer, just a warning in case you need to be well rested ;-) My horses have camped hundreds of times overnight on a picket line and we've never had an issue. We've seen other people with issues though, so you want to do it right if you do it. Keep your line high, don't do overlong tie ropes, keep a light handy for the middle of the night and the unexpected noise. Have a sharp knife handy.
          Kerri

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #6
            I won't feel anything since I don't have living quarters . I may or may not try to sleep in the tackroom, depending on if I fit (have never tried). Otherwise I'm pitching a tent.

            Will someone explain what a high line is?

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by hundredacres View Post
              I won't feel anything since I don't have living quarters . I may or may not try to sleep in the tackroom, depending on if I fit (have never tried). Otherwise I'm pitching a tent.
              You can sweep out the back of the trailer and toss down plastic or other floor covering, add a folding cot or air mattress and sleep back there.

              Comment


              • #8
                High line? Picket line? A rope between two trees (or whatever lol). It's just a very strong rope strung between two end posts of some sort, usually trees in my case. One end is a loop around the tree with an old western cinch underneath to keep the tree from being debarked/cut.....the other end is using a come along that you use to tighten the line as it stretches. I have knots making loops in my line already but you can buy neat little swivel rings too. You attach the lead rope to the loop with a safety knot and your horse to the snap end ;-) I hang my hay nets on the line so they can munch whenever they want. I offer water but don't tie the bucket, I don't like the chance of horses getting tangled...everyone has their own way they do it and have had success with.
                Kerri

                Comment


                • #9
                  question: Why don't you leave them in the trailer with lots of bedding, hay and water - no different than a standing stall?

                  We leave ours in the trailer at events - take out some dividers and it is like a full stall - I don't understand why people have issues with this.

                  We were at an event and our horse kept breaking out of the HORRIBLE stalls provided - since we already had dividers out of the trailer we put her in there overnight with water/hay and shavings. We were chastised but I don't see an issue with it.

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                    You can sweep out the back of the trailer and toss down plastic or other floor covering, add a folding cot or air mattress and sleep back there.
                    *blush* I never thought of that! I am such a rookie.

                    As for keeping them in the trailer....is it a noise issue? Or the risk of getting cast?

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      For your first LD I'd say tie to the trailer. At the ride you can look around for ideas and decide what you'd like to do. The plywood is a great idea, as is fender trim (to make that sharp edge a little softer). I sleep in the back of my truck, still attached to trailer of course, and when horse is hard-tied to the trailer you do certainly feel it!

                      I have the high-tie you linked to, and I really love it. But you want to practice at home first, to make sure your horse is OK with it. Being tied over their head it is harder to get leverage.

                      Most of the rides I go to don't have access to trees for high-lines, but I do that when camping. I also have tied one side to the off ring on the trailer, rope over the top, then to a tree (if one one is available). So many options, have fun!
                      Last edited by irish_horse; Apr. 16, 2013, 01:35 PM. Reason: can't spell!
                      "Do your best, and leave the rest, twill all come right, some day or night" -Black Beauty

                      http://trails-and-trials-with-major.blogspot.com/

                      Comment

                      • Original Poster

                        #12
                        Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                        You can sweep out the back of the trailer and toss down plastic or other floor covering, add a folding cot or air mattress and sleep back there.
                        *blush* I never thought of that! I am such a rookie.

                        As for keeping them in the trailer....is it a noise issue? Or the risk of getting cast?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kasjordan View Post
                          High line? Picket line? A rope between two trees (or whatever lol). It's just a very strong rope strung between two end posts of some sort, usually trees in my case. One end is a loop around the tree with an old western cinch underneath to keep the tree from being debarked/cut.....the other end is using a come along that you use to tighten the line as it stretches. I have knots making loops in my line already but you can buy neat little swivel rings too. You attach the lead rope to the loop with a safety knot and your horse to the snap end ;-) I hang my hay nets on the line so they can munch whenever they want. I offer water but don't tie the bucket, I don't like the chance of horses getting tangled...everyone has their own way they do it and have had success with.
                          This is exactly what I've done forever. Good luck on your ride! I'm sure you will have a great time and no matter how your horse is tied it will turn out great

                          Comment

                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            Thanks Reagan! And thanks for the explanation kasjordan - super helpful!

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              A battery operated fence charger, step in plastic posts, 1/2in, white polytape or the smaller orange 1/4in tape....

                              I was at a ride this past weekend -- and didnt see one horse tied to > anything. All were contained in some arrangement of small paddock. A few were even grouped together.

                              There were 140 entries, all without incident.

                              It even rained that night, with many horses in blankets, including mine ..and still without issue in paddocking. Hang a hay bag off your trailer, water and feed buckets can hang there too ...

                              Just another opinion.
                              IN GOD WE TRUST
                              OTTB's ready to show/event/jumpers. Track ponies for perfect trail partners.
                              http://www.horseville.com/php/search...=1&ssid=057680

                              Comment

                              • Original Poster

                                #16
                                Well, that certainly seems like an economical option too. I'll look in to that!

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  If you leave him on the trailer, he can't move around at all, which will leave you with a pretty stiff horse in the morning (unless you leave him loose in a stock trailer, I guess, but it's still tight quarters).

                                  I would second irish_horse's suggestion to just tie to the trailer for your first LD, making sure that you've done it at home first and know that your horse will stand quietly for long periods of time. That way, you can scope out what everyone else is doing at the ride, ask questions, and decide what you like best before you spend $$$. You will see MANY different set-ups

                                  If you decide to go the trailer route: make sure your set-up is safe, no low-hanging hay nets or things they can get caught on, and make sure they can reach everything they need. You probably won't want to sleep in the trailer if the horse is tied to the outside, because the noise/vibration might keep you up. You'd probably be better off in a tent. Good luck and have fun!
                                  RIP Victor... I'll miss you, you big galumph.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    A friend lost a gelding who scratched his ear with a hind hoof while highlined and he hooked the rope behind his pastern. These are experienced trail riders who 'know' how to highline safely. He didn't survive the night and was found dead in the morning.

                                    When I learned that a few weeks ago- highlining became a maybe in the daylight, and a no no at night. I'll be crafting a step in post/hot tape/solar charger paddock.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Kat- that happened here a few years ago too. A friend lost her little Morgan. Got his leg over the lead rope and the rope just tore his leg up. Husband got me this rubber tubing that I sectioned and put over my lead ropes, no rope burn if they ever get hung up. I usually make their halters about 2 holes looser at night too, just in case so they could maybe pull off easier. (After hearing you know a horse too, I may just go to breakaway halter for my little one who's prone to panic and pull) Just an extra idea maybe.
                                      You can see the rubber tubing in this pic-
                                      http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...linelovins.jpg
                                      Kerri

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        I've only highlined with a collar.

                                        OP, you know your horse best and what he/she is comfortable with. Is it IN the trailer, tied to the trailer that you have made safer, highlined (if doable where you are camping) or in an electric corral. All those take practice to get the horse comfortable and safe.
                                        When I did CTRs, you HAD to tie to the trailer and walking through camp in the middle of the night it was very quiet and half the horses would be laying down. Never saw anyone get hurt. Hi ties were permitted also but few had them as they were so pricey.
                                        It also help to take your horse for a ride when you get there and let them expand a bit of energy.
                                        "When life gives you scurvy, make lemonade."

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X