• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Best trail saddle for big TB?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Best trail saddle for big TB?

    Greetings. I'm looking for advice on what kind of saddle to use for trails on a 16'3 wide wither thoroughbred. I normally ride in a jumping saddle with a forward flap, but want a little more security and definitely more comfort for long trail rides. My knees and ankles can't take hours of trails in my saddle and I don't really want it to get scratched or wet either.

    He's tall and I have to be able to life the saddle, so keep weight in mind. I also have wicked long legs (33 1/2 inseam) and normal close cantact saddles don't fit me, but I imagine it is different in a trail or western saddle. He has a white spot on his wither from where he was ridden in a western saddle before (previous owner) and this is what I want to avoid.

    Hopefully I can find something used that is comfortable for both of us.

    DIY Journey of Remodeling the Farmette: http://weownblackacre.blogspot.com/

  • #2
    I can't help but want to hear about the same thing. I tried an Abetta-western but very light and your legs are positioned under you- more comfortable I think for an english rider. I bought a quarter horse bar (as opposed to full quarter horse), wide flex tree model, which fit my old TB, though I did get only a few rides on him before losing him. The web site www.horsetack.com has a huge variety of options and are very inexpensive.
    I am still riding Abetta with other horses (different model)- but also cannot find a western saddle to fit my new taller, high withered TB- who is narrower. SO I am interested in answers on this topic. Please POST AWAY!


    • #3
      Originally posted by SouthwestRerider View Post
      I bought a quarter horse bar (as opposed to full quarter horse), wide flex tree model,
      So did you have the Wide tree, or the Semi QH bars? Your post is confusing.


      • #4
        Sorry, it IS confusing. You really have to go to the website and look at the options for the second saddle listed under the abetta corduras. I had a horse with wide withers, but hollows just behind the withers(so kind of narrow there), and then a broad back, so I got a wide gullet but narrower bars than FQHB- he also had a lot of slope (contour- almost sway, but just high withers) so I got a flex tree.
        So it is kind of an odd size- special fit.


        • #5
          Does it have to be a western saddle? I can't seem to stand any torque on my knees so English style stirrups are it for me. We use dressage saddles on our TB's. The longer, straighter leg is more comfortable than a cc on longer rides and has more surface area to spread the weight. They're also synthetic, no worries when it rains or branches scrape across it. One's a Wintec with changeable gullet, the other Thorowgood with "fish". They're secure, but don't lock you in.


          • #6
            Originally posted by TBPNW View Post
            Does it have to be a western saddle? I can't seem to stand any torque on my knees so English style stirrups are it for me.
            I can't take any torque on my knees either but I was pleasantly surprised when I borrowed a Big Horn saddle from a friend that had cordura (or canvas maybe??) fenders. They don't constantly pull your toes in like leather fenders do. The seat was leather but nothing else was... very comfortable and lightweight! They didn't chafe my shins like my English leathers do either.
            Doubled Expectations (Roxy, 2001 APHA)
            Al Amir (Al, 2005 OTTB)
            Ten Purposes (Rosie, 2009 OTTB)


            • #7
              If you want a english saddle check out the Wintecs. I just got a Wintec 2000 and so for I'm really liking it. My horse is a wide TB too... not as tall as yours, but pretty wide... and I have long legs and usually need an extra forward flap in jumping saddles. The wintec is comfortable... I'm not sure I'd want to put my stirrups up short enough for serious jumping (the flaps are plently long, but not especially forward) but for hacking and trail rides they seem just right. I haven't used it much yet, but so far, so good


              • #8
                My horse is the same height and build as yours seems to be (mine is half Holsteiner as well), and I've been very happy with my Black Rhino endurance and light trail saddles. I know Dave Genadek makes female and male specific seats as well, which is nice. I opted for the cordura versions due to weight, and they've worked excellently for a couple of years.

                Website is www.aboutthehorse.com


                • Original Poster

                  How is leg alignment in the black rhino. I worry about "chair seat."
                  DIY Journey of Remodeling the Farmette: http://weownblackacre.blogspot.com/


                  • #10
                    ...try the hunting forum

                    The first suggestion that came to mind was an old kieffer AP. I used to ride a couple of hunters in the owner's hunting saddle, and it was like getting into a big cadillac. Their new line up looks a bit different, so my best suggestion is is something like the L&R AP http://www.stcroixsaddlery.com/Used_...ca_con_394.htm

                    but to get more current recommendations from those that spend hours in the saddle in a discipline close to your own, try the hunting forum.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TrotTrotPumpkn View Post
                      How is leg alignment in the black rhino. I worry about "chair seat."
                      "Dressage"/balanced seat. These are my first "western" saddles, and I only even decided on them because I couldn't find a dressage saddle that fit both my horse and I. Have been so thrilled with how they've worked out that I'm now designing a dressage saddle with the same seat/structure as these ones.

                      Highly recommended.

                      There are a number of threads on Dr. Bennett's Equine Studies Institute board where Dave has posted on his saddle design concepts, if you're interested.



                      • #12
                        On long trail rides, I want my dressage saddle. I ride a Barefoot London treeless saddle now for trail rides and my horse and I both really love it. I put my stirrups up a little more than normal for a dressage saddle, so I can lift myself up in case I need to jump something or whatever. But on my other horse, I had a Wintec Isabel dressage and LOVED it for trails. The wintecs are nice trail saddles, they hold up pretty well for trail conditions, and you don't have to worry abut them getting wet or too schratched up like leather saddles.


                        • Original Poster

                          Wintec would make sense. Then I could use it if I ever show dressage again as well. I've always shown in my jumping saddle, but at the lower levels it doesn't really matter.

                          I actually would prefer the synthetic for trail too.
                          DIY Journey of Remodeling the Farmette: http://weownblackacre.blogspot.com/


                          • #14
                            Same question except my OTTB is narrower built. I want the saddle for security reasons. He's still in the process of being retrained and there are moments when having a horn would be beneficial to my mind. How 'bout some of those speciality pads with extra wither padding?
                            Susan B.