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  • #21
    Glad to hear that you are having fun .


    • Original Poster

      Just got in from driving Bugs.
      May I say ?

      Hackney Driver friend stopped by & his youthful enthusiasm pried me off my couch.
      I harnessed by myself - with some confusion about the breeching holdbacks:
      I am still unclear on how to wrap, he does not use them at all.
      Between us we cobbled together a method so cart did not run up on the mini nor did breeching Goose him when I stopped.
      I am going to a 4H show tomorrow where there will be plenty of experienced peeps to show me how to do it the right way.

      Bugs was a Rockstar once again.
      Drove all over my property including a "Gambler's Choice" around some timbers, then out onto the road.
      He stayed light in my hand, turned very neatly & altogether behaved like a seasoned Old Hand.
      Friend asked to drive so I got to see the little guy's trot - he has some suspension going!
      Still needs to round up in front, but WTH, he is JUST 3!
      Then I got out the whip I bought a jillion (okay: 7) years ago when I first got my Hackney pony.
      Lash fits in the ADS-approved manner & he gave me the same "Meh" reaction to being touched by it.

      I promise to get someone to take pics tomorrow & will post here for anyone not already tired of listening to me go on & on & on.......
      *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
      Steppin' Out 1988-2004
      Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
      Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015


      • #23
        still listening and waiting for pic !
        Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


        • #24
          Zuzu - are you the actress who played Zuzu in 'it's a wonderful life?' I've always wanted to ask you that!


          • #25
            Sounds like you have yourself a fabulous little horse!


            • #26
              Originally posted by purryprowly View Post
              Zuzu - are you the actress who played Zuzu in 'it's a wonderful life?' I've always wanted to ask you that!
              no ~ just a fan of the movie ~ admitting I was late to the moviie and the symbolism

              Zu Zu's Petals symbolized :

              1. The promise of the future

              2. The triump of the human spirit

              3. The reminder of how wonderful life is

              Love that !

              and the quote from Clarence

              ' No man is a failure who has friends '

              Thanks for asking .... JINGLES & AO !
              Last edited by Zu Zu; Jun. 25, 2017, 08:53 PM.
              Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


              • #27
                Thanks Zu Zu, hope you didn't mind my asking. Such a lovely film too. We could all use a little Zuzu Bailey in our lives!


                • Original Poster


                  1st a pic:

                  He could not have been better-behaved.
                  Pinched myself all day long - Loooong day! 6A-5P - that Just-Turned-3 was so good.

                  He stood quietly tied to a trailer for the whole day, harnessed w/o a fuss < well, a teeny fuss when I goosed him with the breeching > (Note to Self: Practice wrapping holdbacks), went into all his classes like he'd done it 4-Ever, ignored antics of other horses/ponies/minis on the grounds, drove all over the grounds, dealt with the Uber-Deep footing in the ring <so deep I scratched his 4th class when he labored in the 3rd.
                  3rd of 6 in Reinsmanship
                  4th of 6 in Ladies to Drive
                  5th of 5 in Pleasure < Pilot Error

                  Made friends with everyone who stopped to Ooh & Aah.
                  Ignored the mare in season tied at the next trailer - shameless hussy winked & peed all day & had the gelding tied next to her in a tizzy.
                  He is Cute Squared
                  & we are going to Wash,Rinse,Repeat this weekend at another very local show.

                  Brag aside, it is apparent trainer did not use a whip with him.
                  He responds to a kiss & the very inelegant slap on the rump with reins, but a touch of the lash pretty much got or scoot then resume pace.
                  Any hints for adding whip to my training at home?
                  He's not scared by it, just does not have a clue what I'm asking.
                  My idea is to use vocal cue "Step it up" followed by lash applied, followed by reinslap until he connects the vocal to the request.
                  *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
                  Steppin' Out 1988-2004
                  Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
                  Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015


                  • #29
                    LOVE THE PIC !!!

                    * need more please

                    'Bugs' is very adorable ! You look great !

                    Class act !

                    Many more pplleeaassee ?!?!???

                    Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


                    • #30
                      That is one very cute little guy!



                      • #31
                        Congratulations! Love the picture

                        I dId a lot of ground driving to get my mini used to the whip. He knew the kiss sound, so I would kiss and "touch" with the whip, followed by praise when he move forward/increased speed. He will catch on fast. Try skipping the reinslap altogether, just kiss and tap. If the first tap doesn't do it, kiss and tap again more firmly. It only took a couple of lessons for Cappy, my mini to catch on.

                        When I was taking lessons, I got holy hell for a reinslap! The instructor called it "John Wayneing" cause that's how they do it in the westerns. My nickname was
                        J.W. for awhile but it soon changed to "Cone Killer" when we got to that part of the lessons. I've squashed many a cone this past year .


                        • #32
                          Cone Killer
                          Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


                          • #33
                            I admit to rein slapping when I was too lazy to pick up the whip. <hangs head in shame>



                            • Original Poster

                              RMJacobs & Zu Zu Glad I'm not the only one who thinks he defines Key-Oot.
                              However, myself needs more color - we look like we s/b pulling the hearse
                              I may go all patriotic for this weekend - have the red jacket from 2yrs ago...
                              Perhaps a RedWhiteBLue cockade on the fedora?

                              cayuse thanks for the tip & for admitting to the reinslap.
                              John Wayneing

                              RMJacobs looks like I'm in good company: Reformed Reinslappers Anonymous
                              *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
                              Steppin' Out 1988-2004
                              Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
                              Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015


                              • #35
                                CUTE !

                                What about a cream color shirt and a caramel color belt/ sash if it won't interfere with driving apron ....? Conservative but nice.


                                cream shirt - red cropped jacket

                                You look fine - but I agree the picture is a bit dark
                                * with the 'Bug's' black tux ...coloring up your outfit will ensure you two keep
                                the judge's eye.

                                Wow - how far you have come woman !
                                Treat others the way you want others to treat you ~ on your threads !


                                • #36
                                  Red and black would look really nice with him. I am thinking red jacket, black shirt, red on your hatband/feathers, and the black lap robe. And a red browband if the rules will let you get away with that.


                                  • #37
                                    You can definitely teach the whip cues from the ground first. Long lining would best simulate driving without worrying about a bad reaction. You can walk behind and to the side so you don't have to jog to keep up.

                                    If I am asking for more within a gait i use "step up," if I am asking for a gait shift I use the name of the gait (walk, trot, canter, etc.), if the horse is hesitant about going forward for whatever reason I use the gait name and "on" ("walk on," etc.), before reinforcing with the whip as needed.

                                    Do you also use your whip for turning and bending aids or just as your "go" button?

                                    My first instructor greatly discouraged rein slapping. If you think about it, one it is counter productive, you're using your "slow/whoa" aid to ask the horse to go, two it disrupts the horse's mouth with the reins jiggling (and you often have to be louder with the aid to counteract this), and three, a slap on the rump sometimes produces a kick/buck in response depending on the temperament of the equine in question.

                                    Have I rein-slapped before? Yes. One time in particular was a Belgian mare in a forecart who thought she was done working. There was a wide gap between two pens leading from the work area to the hitching area (i.e. the I'm done working place) and there was no whip. I wished I had one! A few minutes of growling and rein slapping and she finally decided pulling for "home" wasn't worth the hassle. Sometimes you use what you have!


                                    • Original Poster

                                      BUSY at least 60% of the credit belongs to Bugs - you cannot buy that temperament!

                                      cayuse I will probably go with the red jacket over the black shirt so the lap robe ties in.
                                      Bet I can find feathers for the hat with red or since it is July 4th weekend RWB?
                                      I have a medium brown straw hat w/feather cockade I wore with a navy jacket last year (as a passenger) but navy with black apron probably not a good combo. Excuse to buy another apron?
                                      I may haunt Goodwill today for something that will work with both the straw & black apron.,...
                                      Red browband would be allowed - it's just a local schooling show - but under the trolldoll forelock probably invisible!

                                      CERT ground driving is a good idea & my only option now since my cart remains loaded in the trailer with others in prep for this weekend's show.
                                      I am a Whip Newb too, so right now we will both be learning cues.
                                      First off I want him to learn it means Go Faster (coupled with verbal "Step Up") so I can abandon the reinslap 4-Ever!
                                      *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
                                      Steppin' Out 1988-2004
                                      Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
                                      Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015


                                      • #39
                                        Sunday pics ?!? pplleeaassee ?!?~?!
                                        Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


                                        • Original Poster

                                          First a pic:

                                          *Photobucket is apparently not copying links today - will update when I can*

                                          Let me just say NEXT show I will not be wearing the off-shoulder Aging Slattern Look
                                          It was hot, but I shoulda worn my jacket!
                                          Bugs was still Best.Mini.Ever! - in spite of a minor hissyfit when I asked him to halt facing the Fluttery Flags of Death.

                                          I was able to harness solo twice - first when we arrived & I drove him on the grounds, Then for his classes.
                                          Only did 2 - back to back Pleasure & Reinsmanship.
                                          2nd of 6 in Pleasure & (Pilot Error - shoulda seen he was pooped) 4th of 4.
                                          But again, he behaved like a Pro, stood tied for another long day <10A-6P & got kudos from Carriage Club members & a ton of unsolicited "Cute!"s.
                                          AND he is getting whip cues, No rein-slapping was done!

                                          Next show is Fair 8/3-5, so you get a rest from my blathering
                                          Last edited by 2DogsFarm; Jul. 3, 2017, 06:27 PM.
                                          *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
                                          Steppin' Out 1988-2004
                                          Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
                                          Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015