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earned my name again today!!!

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  • earned my name again today!!!

    New cart has been tweaked and I have driven out of my gate a few times. Took it out on the trail for the first time today.

    This is Zanzer's true return to training drive today. Met up with a training buddy who rides. We did about 10 miles in about 2.5 hours. Lots of walking after the boy decided he really didn;t want to trot that fast in this heat. We stayed on nicely shaded trails.

    These trails are amongst pine trees. They wind around and through the trees. We were walking around a rather tight corner and I knew we weren;t going to make it. The left wheel was behind the tree!

    I figured the tire would hit the tree and stop. I asked for a whoa--but the tire rolled upthe tree and around it!! tipping me from my seat tumbling on my bum!!!

    I held on to the lines and called whoa!! whoa!! Again Zanzer stopped for me and planted them feet!!!! That is hours and hours of training!!

    To the newbies here---you gotta put a whoa on them for situations like this!! And they will happen to you when you least expect it!!!

    Anywho, so I earned my name today--cartfall!!! No injuries other than a bruise hip.

    But this did drive home I need brush guards. Will be looking for hubby to design me a couple or perhaps having Russ Hardwick make me some. He is much closer than the builder of the cart. If I had some on the cart, it would have slid around the tree and not climbed it!!!

    The gal who was riding behind us, laughed after it was all over. She said we looked like the little man Artie somebody who used to be onthe old Rowan and Martin Laugh In from the 70s television show. The little guy who rode the tricycle and would fall over slowly. She suggested I change my name to cart-art!! nawww,

    Just FYI, I became cartfall when I got my first PC in 2000. I was in a stage where I tumbled out of the cart quite frequently due to my own stupidity or just plain accidents--sort of the s-it happens situations. The movie Dances with Wolves was just out. I wanted to use Falls out of Carts but it was too long for an AOL address in those days. so Cartfall was born!!!

    If I were to put notches on my shafts like gunslingers did on their guns, there would be a bunch!!!!

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    Jingles for your hip ~ feel better soon ~ should be very proud of your Zanzer ~ a job well done !
    Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


    • #3
      Ouch! So glad you and the boy are OK. That's why I prefer a 4-wheeled vehicle with a full 5th wheel as our trails have some tight spots, too!
      Pat Belskie - ASHEMONT Farm

      PnP Distributors - KUTZMANN Carriages


      • #4
        Oh no!! Time for the velcro carriage seat!

        Good boy Z!!! And good thing he had blinders on or he would have laughed at you too.
        ...don't sh** where you eat...


        • Original Poster

          Originally posted by winfieldfarm View Post
          Oh no!! Time for the velcro carriage seat!

          Good boy Z!!! And good thing he had blinders on or he would have laughed at you too.
          Oh, he turned his head to say , Mom whatever are you doing on the ground again?


          • Original Poster

            Originally posted by Ashemont View Post
            Ouch! So glad you and the boy are OK. That's why I prefer a 4-wheeled vehicle with a full 5th wheel as our trails have some tight spots, too!
            Hey, Miz Pat,

            I have seen those trails and fully intend to again someday!!!

            How are ya? Welcome back!!!

            Can;t argue the 4 wheels vs 2. But for the distances I do and the deep sand, I gotta keep it as light as possible. The roots tear up my ride in my marathon carriage, way too bumpity.
            My new cart at least has some springs in the seat that take care of bumps.

            There are places where I would be hard pressed to get a 4 wheel carriage through gaps in the fence where my cart will go.


            • #7
              Glad you're both ok. What all did your hub have to do to the Ahonen to make it work for you?

              "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx


              • Original Poster

                Originally posted by Yip View Post
                Glad you're both ok. What all did your hub have to do to the Ahonen to make it work for you?

                The cart was shipped with the 2 shafts detached. The design of the cart is such that the shafts are attached basically one pipe into another, smaller shaft pipe slides into larger connector pipe, at each corner of the dash. The fit is not exact and the shafts tended to slop around as they were attached with only 1 pin. It made the ride somewhat like one of those flex shaft meadowbrooks you see--I don;t care for that ride. Plus over time the the hole would wear making the shaft inherently weak at the joint.

                I have had shafts shear off (another cartfall event) on a easy entry pipe cart while the horse was at the trot 4 miles out from the trailer. Getting back out to trailer was not fun--had to reverse the cart, rehook chariot like, and basically line drove the mare out of the forest back to the trailer. All this in the deep deep sand of the Ocala National Forest.

                I do not want this to happen here, serious safety issues on that one. And with the miles I travel, being 10 miles from trailer is a possibility with no way out but to walk.

                That said--Mr. Cartfall (who only under the most duress will enter my cart to ride) is a great pit crew. He drilled a second hole on each shaft so the shafts are now held with 2 good size bolts, and then drilled two more holes through the pipe on the dash, and put in two tiny inset screws (getting pretty technical now). These inset screws are made to push into the shaft making the whole joint more solid and rigid. I understand the concept, would never have thought about it by myself, and cannot begin to explain it much more than above. It helps being married to a retired shop teacher and Missouri farm boy.

                We have balanced the cart by moving the axle forward, the thing seemed too heavy to me and adjusted the seat for me. Both of these are built into the cart for easily adjustment.

                Would I order the wedge seat again? nope, that center arm rest does not allow me to move my weight around quickly. This might have allowed me to throw my weight against the tilt yesterday and not tumble out of the cart. In my trail training and competitions, we are out in some uneven trails, lots of erosion in places, the trails might have a 45 plus degree slope to them. I need to be able to move my weight in the uphill slope (rather like leaning into the curve on a motorcycle) . But that was my own idea and it really didn;t work as I wanted. It has kept me in the seat on a couple of occasions. The wedge doesn;t do that much as the u-springs add height as well as the wheels. If all I did was show, this would work nicely as you are supposed to ride on the right side in the seat. If all I did was go down level streets, yeah would order it again. I hope to redo the seat or order a flat seat in the fall once I go back to work and possibly get the shorter shafts with the french loop attachment.

                I like my cart, but the shaft attachment design needs to be redesigned in my mind. As the cart was made in uppper MN and I live in Central FL, sending it back and forth for fixing was NOT an option.

                There were some problems getting the shafts to be perfectly the same turn out and curve, they don;t exactly match. We had to get real creative and they are close enough now for government work if you get my drift. It does not affect the performance of my cart. Again the distance in where it was made and here made it not worth it.

                My suggestion to anyone who wants to buy a cart, get one close to home. If there are problems, then you can go directly to the maker and talk to them one on one. Much easier than trying to talk on phone or by email.