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  • Device that holds cart upright on back door of horse trailer?

    I want to begin looking into this but have no idea even what it's called.

    Websites showing how these work and personal reviews would be greatly appreciated!

    I'd like to know what works well, or badly, good and bad features, etc. and where they can be bought.

    If any of you use this device and have a picture of it holding a cart, my hubby would sure appreciate it.

    Thank you!

    Yip
    "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx

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    I've only seen one in action and it was designed and made by the owner. My only concern would be blocking the door and having to get the horse out in an emergency.

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      my friend has put one of these on her trailer that she uses to haul her cart. She uses a flat luggage rack like this and has had a hitch receiver put in the back of her trailer, so this mounts in to the trailer just like a hitch would go in your truck. Then she has a few eye-hooks on the top of the doors that she uses to bungee the shafts in. We bungee the basket to the bottom, and the shafts up, and it rides great. Never had a problem with it being too tall for an 88-96" shaft length show cart.

      As far as unloading, yes, it does conflict with that potentially. When we get to our destination, we unload the cart, then remove the luggage rack (it's got the same pin system as a hitch), then we can unload the horses like normal. She does have a slant load trailer with an emergency door, so in the event of an emergency, they *could* theoretically unload through the stallion stall. Not really sure how easy the dividers are to move, but I think that is a possibility. We've never had to use that method, it's pretty easy to remove the luggage rack from the back of the trailer.
      Last edited by Samigator; Jan. 15, 2010, 09:50 PM.

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        Originally posted by Yip View Post
        I want to begin looking into this but have no idea even what it's called.

        Websites showing how these work and personal reviews would be greatly appreciated!

        I'd like to know what works well, or badly, good and bad features, etc. and where they can be bought.

        If any of you use this device and have a picture of it holding a cart, my hubby would sure appreciate it.

        Thank you!

        Yip
        I have used 3 different approaches to hauling carts on the back of my trailer--

        my hubby built an arrangement on the back of my steel trailer--- I have no photos of it. It consisted of two ramps held up by chains, but connected to the back of the trailer door (one large door) with a slide through pin arrangement (2 tubes on the door and 1 tube on the ramp line up and a pin slide through and was cotter pinned). Then the swivel tree had to be removed and another pin dropped through that bolt hole and connected to the trailer via a small rod.
        Downside of this arrangement was that I had to remove the swivel tree each time I attached the cart and then put it on every time I wanted to use.
        Upside--could take horse in and out of trailer without removing cart.


        The next one was on an aluminum trailer I had built. It was a simple 2 inch reese hitch receiver built on the back of the trailer. Then I had tray that the guy built for me that had a hitch bar that slid into the receiver. This tray was wide enough for my cart. We added some eyebolts for easier tie downs. Use 4 or 5 rachet straps to tie the cart onto the tray and trailer. Even had rubber mounted on the top of the trailer so that the shafts did not rub on the trailer.
        Downside of this arrangement--horses went on trailer before I could load the cart as this trailer had 2 back doors. Also the tray was rather flimsy and would wobble--would have worked better with two receivers, made it more stable. Cart would jump off sometimes if I hit bumps--not off of the tray, just one wheel which meant I had to stop and retie it down.

        The third arrangement is the one I have now on my stock trailer-

        http://pets.webshots.com/album/574921205zKKiNo

        This is by far the best. It cost about 900 bucks but the horse can be loaded or unloaded even if the cart is on the carrier. I can also leave the cart on the carrier if I choose.
        Takes two rachet straps to hold it on--as it also has pins through the wheels to hold it in place.

        An acquaintance of mine used an s shaped frame which hung on the doors of her trailer. She had either a ramp or a
        half doors, I don;t remember. She hung the cart wheels toward the door on this frame and then strapped it on. It was basically two S's with two horizontal crosspieces to hold them together. Never saw her use it nor know how she could get the cart up on the framework.

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        • #5
          That last ones really cool.

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          • #6
            I have pictures of one I took at a horse show. They had a welder make it for under 400.00 I couldn't get them on here but if you pm me I can send them to you. It swung away.

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              #7
              She uses a flat luggage rack like this and has had a hitch receiver put in the back of her trailer, so this mounts in to the trailer just like a hitch would go in your truck.
              Samigator, did you try to post a pic link? I am not getting the *luggage rack* image. Where did she buy this, any idea? I'd like to check it out. Also, does the hitch receiver protrude behind the trailer? Like, could the horses possibly injure their legs getting in and out? Does the trailer have a ramp or double/single back doors? Thanks!

              my hubby built an arrangement on the back of my steel trailer--- I have no photos of it. It consisted of two ramps held up by chains, but connected to the back of the trailer door (one large door) ***with a slide through pin arrangement (2 tubes on the door and 1 tube on the ramp line up and a pin slide through and was cotter pinned). Then the swivel tree had to be removed and another pin dropped through that bolt hole and connected to the trailer via a small rod.
              Cartfall, you lost me after the *** I inserted.

              The one in your pics is fantastic! Do you happen to have a pic of the cart on it?

              The next one was on an aluminum trailer I had built. It was a simple 2 inch reese hitch receiver built on the back of the trailer.
              Did the receiver protrude out from the trailer? Could the horses have hit it and gotten injured?

              Cart would jump off sometimes if I hit bumps--not off of the tray, just one wheel which meant I had to stop and retie it down.
              How did you know if/when this happened?

              China Doll, I PM'd you with my email address.

              Is it possible to put any kind of cart rack on a ramp trailer? I need to know this asap!

              Thanks, everyone!

              Yip
              "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx

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                Yip- click on the word "this" in my post, it is a hyperlink to a website with photos of that type of luggage rack. I will try to go back and edit that post to see if I can make that word/link stand out a little more. I think this is the same concept that Cartfall listed as the second option. Pretty inexpensive to do, and no, the receiver did not stick out beyond the trailer.

                Cartfall, the cart rack that you have (option 3) is AWESOME! Where do you get such a device?

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                  Samigator, thanks! I see it now. That looks like an easy option if the *box* is large enough to hold the cart. I'll go read. It might come in several sizes.

                  Thanks!

                  Yip
                  "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx

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                    #10
                    Here are 2 I found, very different.

                    http://www.dyerbuggyworks.com/
                    scroll almost to the bottom

                    http://www.metalartfla.com/2.html
                    this is the super one like Cartfall's but they don't have any pics. I incl. the link for their contact info. She sent me some pics and they are really nice.

                    Yip
                    "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx

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                    • #11
                      Hi Yip,

                      sorry I haven;t been around, but I buried my best barn bud this week and haven;t really been on the computer.

                      The one at Dyer Buggy works with two ramps is just like the one I had on my steel trailer.

                      The second link you have is the guy who built mine. Kerry Dignan is Suannn's husband. They both are skilled metal workers. So please use my the link to my album if you anytime.

                      http://www.sportomotoring.com/hitch-...o-carrier.html

                      Try this above link. It is the idea of the tray behind the car seen in the link would be on the back of your horse trailer. Your trailer has a receiver hitch, the tray has a long piece that slides into the receiver hitch. This is the easiests to do but I found the tray eventually flopped back and forth and rounded off the bar that went into the receiver. Hence you would have to really tie it on well.

                      Hope this helps.

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                        #12
                        We went to our Adam trailer dist. last Monday and will probably be ordering a trailer from them. They have put carriers on trailers before but the one like yours would be new for them. They are really interested in assisting us and seem to embrace the challenge. They quoted me $400! We'll see what they say when I send pics of yours.

                        Yip
                        "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx

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                        • #13
                          If you need better photos I can email them directly to you.

                          I paid 850 dollars this past summer for mine. Don;t let them make it too flimsy,

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                            Cartfall, yes, please send me the best pics you have! Anything I can show them, esp. the hinge setup, will be a plus.

                            Thanks!

                            Yip
                            "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx

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                            • #15
                              send photos. check your email

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                              • #16
                                Well ... we've done it. We now have two horses to drive and two carts to take at the same time. Both our carts are variations of two wheel Meadowbrook carts (just no fenders).

                                Our original setup allows us to put one cart in the front of the trailer. Now we're trying to figure out how to haul the second cart.

                                Do you know of any cart carriers for a cart that has 44" wooden wheels? As you know it would weigh about 250 pounds.

                                My husband has contacted a couple of businesses about their cart carriers ... and they do not recommend them for this type of weight.

                                Any one have any suggestions???

                                THANKS!
                                The other female in my husband's life has four legs

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by horsegeeks View Post
                                  Our original setup allows us to put one cart in the front of the trailer. Now we're trying to figure out how to haul the second cart.

                                  Do you know of any cart carriers for a cart that has 44" wooden wheels? As you know it would weigh about 250 pounds.

                                  THANKS!
                                  My new cart carrier was built to carry my road cart with 44 inch wheels.

                                  Check out the links above to see the cart carrier I have on the back of my aluminum stock trailer.

                                  If I wanted-- I can put my marathon carriage in the front , close the center gate, put the horse in and then put on the cart. My carrier opens like a swing gate to allow the horse to go in if the cart is on the carrier.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Cartfall View Post
                                    My new cart carrier was built to carry my road cart with 44 inch wheels.

                                    Check out the links above to see the cart carrier I have on the back of my aluminum stock trailer.

                                    If I wanted-- I can put my marathon carriage in the front , close the center gate, put the horse in and then put on the cart. My carrier opens like a swing gate to allow the horse to go in if the cart is on the carrier.
                                    Would you be so kind as to send us the photos that we could give to a welder to build us one please. horsegeeksatgmail.com. Thanks so much. Kenny and Rita
                                    The other female in my husband's life has four legs

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                                    • #19
                                      We call them buggy cart racks for horse trailers

                                      We were wondering were people found out that we made the cart racks for horse trailers and if you google long enough you can find your answer. We make a half rack for single doors and if you are in the Florida area we can make full racks (there is just no way to ship the big ones). My link will show you pictures of both if you are interested. If anyone has any questions they are more than welcome to contact us. We have had several people contact us from this web site so I thought I should join to make it easier for people to get the info they were looking for.
                                      Thanks Susanne and Kerry
                                      www.metalartfla.Web.officelive.com
                                      Last edited by Susanne and Kerry; Dec. 22, 2010, 02:21 PM. Reason: forgot some info

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                                      • #20
                                        Hi Susanne and Kerry,

                                        yuppers, you made mine. This is Sue from over by Daytona. I have the one that we had to fix due a horse running into it.

                                        My carrier is still going strong and I love love love it!!!!

                                        Sue aka cartfall!

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