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  • Searching for a bit

    I am posting this for a friend. She has a nice morgan mare who had bit issues... UNTIL a trainer loaned her a Neue Schule UTR (ultimate tongue relief) Liverpool bit. The mare LOVED it. My friend finally found a three slot one from a shop in England. Now she would like to find a two slot (5 1/2") for marathoning..... but is having no luck. She is not getting responses from the few driving shops she can find contact info for...

    I know some of the posters here are from the other side of the pond. Can someone help her find this bit?


  • #2
    I looked that bit up and I can't figure out the difference between it and the KK Conrad.


    The mouthpiece in the KK slants up and forward like the one you mentioned.

    Just hoping to learn the difference
    Kanoe Godby
    See, I was raised by wolves and am really behind the 8-ball on diplomatic issue resolution.


    • Original Poster

      The ported area of the mouthpiece revolves 360 degrees, giving the horse no place to lean, and lots to play with in his mouth. The sides work rather independently, kind of like the myler I use on my riding horse.....

      I have found a few websites, but I know my friend did a search. It seems none of the stores are interested in replying to her!



      • #4
        Just came across this site with driving bits. Perhaps what she wants it on there.


        Another suggestion would be to cut off the bit shank, just leaving the two slot shank she wants. Then you polish the end of shank smooth, no burrs. Could probably be done at a machine or welding shop in town, if she doesn't have tools to do it herself. My husband has shortened the shanks on our bits himself, not much to it.


        • #5
          Advanced Equine in Florida also carries the Brasseur bits. Check their website.

          I have also had them cut down from a three slot to a two slot by my local welding shop. They did a great job and you couldn't tell there had been any change.
          Kanoe Godby
          See, I was raised by wolves and am really behind the 8-ball on diplomatic issue resolution.


          • Original Poster

            Thanks for the link, but she is looking for the one specific bit.....
            Also, she knows she can cut the bit shank down, but does not want to for a number of reasons, including that the bottom "weighted" end of the shank would be gone, changing the balance of the bit.



            • #7
              If you mean the ones on the following link then they're just a 3 slot then cutting off the bottom slot won't make a blind bit of difference. For sure it won't change the balance.

              It's what we always do over in the UK


              • Original Poster

                Thanks, Thomas, I'll let my friend know that. Maybe it will make finding the bit a "bit" easier!



                • #9
                  In the UK the bottom slot is known as "The duffers bar"

                  If you need it then you drive like a duffer !

                  Either that or your horse needs training and you're a duffer!

                  So it's the norm to just cut it off if you can't find a 2 slot bit.

                  Traditionally they always came with 3 slots though - mainly because you can turn it into a pairs buxton bit if you want to.


                  • #10
                    How about trying to order it from the UK?


                    They sell the Neue Schule 2 Slot Revolving Liverpool UTR Ultimate Tongue Relief Driving Bit in the size you are looking for. Looks like they do international orders. You could at least email them.

                    No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill


                    • Original Poster

                      Thanks! Actually, I JUST sent her thiat link after a google search!