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NEW UPDATE...CPR and the Wife (Rose)

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  • #21
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Kookicat - we welcome all to this board, but be warned we like to suck you in and get you hooked - literally First thing you know it'll be thinking about driving your eventer or your semi retired pony and we've got you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Well, I do have an out of work mare who I could use....
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    • #22
      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SLW:
      It's just the fact that your grass is still green that makes me jealous! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

      That and the fact that it will be back in the 70's by tomorrow are what I like about our winters!


      • #23
        SLW - You get 20 degrees and NO humidity???

        Here in NJ we have the "best" of both worlds - cold AND humid


        • #24
          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Here in NJ we have the "best" of both worlds - cold AND humid </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

          I was born and raisd in NJ and can attest to that! One of my mother's favorite sayings was "If you can live in NJ you can live ANYWHERE" and she sure was right. I've lived all over the US and the world and never had a problem adjusting to various climates
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          • Original Poster

            First, the weather! It was VERY COLD here this morning At 6:45 AM when Sam went out to feed it was 36 degrees at the barn The horses were all blanketed, the donkey was blanketed, even the dogs had to have their blankets on before they were let out of the house at 6:30 to do their business. Sam fed and then her and I went to the Cafe for breakfast. By the time we finished, stopped at the feed store for wormers, and got back to the barn (8:00) it was 42 and with the sun up strong it was warming quickly. At noon it was 70 in the sun (thats a LOT better). Supposed to be colder tonight!

            Well my wife, Rose, spent an hour grooming and fussing over Cyman today and then about an hour and a quarter driving him close to the house. Because he is new to her she wanted to stay close so she just worked around the barns and the house and she had a ball! I think Cyman thinks he has died and gone to pony heaven! He has found someone who likes to go slow, have long conversations with while driving, and who's idea of moving out briskly involves a very slow relaxed trot I really believe Cyman thinks Pita is absolutely nuts! Sam and Pita go flying by with those legs pumping and you can almost see Cyman shake his head at how any pony could be that crazy. On the other hand he does not mind Jake along with him as long as Jake is in front. He does not like Jake and his cart behind him at all but he is perfectly content to follow behind.

            We made a few adjustments to the harness and it seems to be fitting better. Got a ways to go but I think its going to be ok.

            Here are some pics...





            I appreciate y'alls patience reading and commenting on these posts. I know its not as exciting to y'all as it is to us....

            *Charter Member-Blue Tarp State Driving Clique*
            "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, you just might find you get what you need" Mick Jagger


            • #26

              I DO HOPE that you and Rose will bring the new guys with you to Black Prong. I'm sure he could use the "experience" of hanging out and that way everyone can fuss over him. I was checking out the Caspians at the Whips weekend back in Oct as Annie was one of the youth drivers that Bob worked with. What a cute breed. And hey guys, they are HORSES not ponies. I guess it has to do with how they are put tigether. Ane yes, I know that by height measurements they fit in the "pony" category

              BTW, you guys staying over or trailering in each day? When will you know Sammi's times? I have to work on Friday, but hope to swing by over the weekend as it is only 14 miles from my house. Might go ride Luke also as Bob is competing. Gotta drive that direction anyway as the vendors have toset up at the local gas station (which I think in TERRIBLE!)


              • #27
                Hi all you driving nuts:

                Don that photo number ten says it all!!!! What a grin on Rose's face. I'm so glad this is working for you.

                Dreag, I remember you from the Whips event. You were doing a great job hauling Bob around on a golf cart. Thank you for doing that. People who do those volunteer type jobs need all the credit and praise we can dish out. I also want to thank you for sticking up for the fact that a Caspian is a HORSE and DNA studies show them to be an ancestor of the Arabian. They can't help it if they were lost from recorded history for 2000 years.

                I drove the Hunter Pace 5 mile carriage Pace at Misty Morning Hounds Perry Plantation this afternoon. The lack of volunteers was rather apparent. When you drive 5 miles without seeing another person or horse it feels a little lonely. A volunteer on an ATV looking over the course with Binoculars would have been a security blanket. The drive went without a hitch (pardon the bad pun)

                This event was poorly attended maybe due to cold but after lunch it was pretty nice for cry'in out loud. I would like to see some other board members try this drive when it comes up again. It's very easy and low key and we should try to support every driving venue available. If these folks lay out a course and do all the paperwork and only a couple of carriages show up they will quickly make Perry Plantation not available for driving. I will offer my services to help them lay an interesting course if they do it again.

                Unfortunately they did not allow me to use Triumph as he is a stallion so Arman had to pull the little Jerald cart by himself. He trotted as fast as he could for at least 85% of the course, cantered about 5%, and slowed his trot for about 10%. He had plenty left at the end of the five miles.



                • #28
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

                  This event was poorly attended maybe due to cold but after lunch it was pretty nice for cry'in out loud. I would like to see some other board members try this drive when it comes up again. It's very easy and low key and we should try to support every driving venue available. If these folks lay out a course and do all the paperwork and only a couple of carriages show up they will quickly make Perry Plantation not available for driving. I will offer my services to help them lay an interesting course if they do it again.

                  If I'd had some advance notice I would have attended! Was it on the Whips calendar? It doesn't have to be a Whips event to be listed there so maybe you can get them to help publicize it next year. I want to get down there and meet up with the Misty Morning Hunt and this would have been a good opportunity to do that. I have a lifelong goal of learning how to fox-hunt and I think this next year will be my year to start. We're going to have a son attending U of FL in Gainesville in two years so I thought I could work in visits to him along with hunting with the MM group! Wish I'd been there to drive with you today!!

                  BTW, Haflingers are also horses, genetically speaking. But they get called ponies by a lot people, including me!


                  • #29
                    Whatever the breeding, if animal is under the size listed, 14.2H in most instances, it is a pony.

                    I am more Western oriented and that was always the cutoff point. I know that other disciplines like Pony Club include 14.2H as pony size. Sure was a surprise to my old Western horse, when she was measured a pony for Gymkana games competition! She was exactly 14.2H, always had been a horse size for my Western riding shows.
                    We have met a lot of small QHs over the years who didn't reach 14.2H and lost their QH papers from the registry. They were well-bred, cute, proportionate, but forever after, ponies. Not ever called small horses. Didn't matter if their parents had been horses, it was all a height decision.
                    Arabs go just by bloodline, don't pull papers on small animals, just call them Arabs. I have heard them refered to as Arab pony and Arab horse, depending on individual. Compete at breed shows in the same classes.
                    Morgans seem to be the same way, do not pull the papers on small ones. Though little ones may move from breed Morgan shows to pony show classes. Can fetch more money as ponies than as Morgans.


                    • #30
                      Ridesahaflinger: Here is link to Misty Morning schedule: http://www.mistymorninghounds.com/fixture.html
                      Looks like there is a Pace March 11 and April 8

                      sorry to set off the pony/horse debate. Call 'em whatever. Just ride 'em or drive 'em and give 'em a hug and a pat for me.


                      • #31
                        Andrea, how did you hear about the vendors? I was informed to keep it quiet, but I will be there. Yes, it is terrible, but as Alan said "it's his sandbox".

                        I am going to try to slip away to see some of the marathon.


                        • #32
                          I'm new to this driving stuff, so I don't even know what half these events ARE. What the heck is a pace? I've seen it listed in calendars but am clueless.

                          Looks like a nice facility. I agree with getting it listed in the FL WHIPS calendar, I look there a lot. Volunteering is a great way to learn stuff without paying (such as the whips workshop). I have to be careful not to over-volunteer myself, I have a way of doing that.

                          Justinesue: I heard about the vendors from a thread here months ago. I sent an email saying that as a newbie having vendors was VERY helpful in learning about stuff. Heck, last year the Black Prong CDE was the first driven event I ever went to. I asked lots of questions from the vendors and it did not detract from the action. Heck, one year later I have taken the WHIPS/SFCC 2 day learn to drive class, moved to a place with acreage, found a horse to lease, started taking driving lessons with Bob, went to (and volunteered at) the Whips 3 day clinic, bought a cart and a harness. This all started with going to Black Prong and getting interested in driving. Alan had said he would have vendors in Feb., hope this is true.

                          email me at dreag823@aol.com. Maybe I can help watch the shop if you want to go watch some competition. Us Levy COunty folk need to stick together!


                          • Original Poster

                            Actually, a horse under 14.2 is not automatically considered a pony under ADS rules. It is really up to the owner.

                            When we decided to get a Caspian I did a lot of research.. in regards to "is a Caspian a pony or a horse" I found the following...

                            According to ADS Rules Chapter 8, Article 15, Paragraph 3 ... "In all but Combined Driving Competitions, a registered horse of a breed permitting horses to be 14.2 and under (i.e. Arabian, Morgan, Quarterhorse, etc) may show as a horse, but not as a horse and a pony at the same show."

                            It's amazing that I actually know a reg. out of the book....

                            *Charter Member-Blue Tarp State Driving Clique*
                            "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, you just might find you get what you need" Mick Jagger


                            • #34
                              Wow, Andrea, you have had a busy year. But, at least you knew exactly what you wanted to do. I applaude your enthusiasm and determination. We will have to meet up and drive together one of these weekends.

                              Thanks for the offer. My friend that sells with me may be there, but I will let you know. I would like to see Cartfall and Sammi do the marathon and get some pics. I have a very good camera with a big zoom. I need to see these outfits in action that me and my friend have been working on for Horsefolks.

                              I seriously doubt if vendors will be allowed at Black Prong in Feb. They haven't been allowed to the other shows, so why then? You have to figure that we may p---s Alan off after this coming show, too.


                              • #35
                                Actually I just looked this up in the rulebook and it is not true of CDE's. There anything under 14.2 or 148 cm w/o shoes (I believe) is a pony.


                                • #36

                                  A hunter pace is the hunter/eventer answer to the trace pace for drivers. I have actually ridden the Misty Morning Hounds Trace Pace a couple of times over the last few years. It was a very nice farm which had jumps on it. You ride/drive the route and you pick your pace as to the level of experience. You can jump or not. It really is a on your honor type of thing that you go the entire course. They even have one old pickup truck out in the middle of a field that people jump. They always offered a driving class but I wasn;t into the driving in those days. It was just something to do with my horse. We actually won one and placed third in another one year. We would go out in a group.

                                  It really is a long haul from where I used to live for a 5 mile ride. But we wanted to try one. There is another down by Tampa, usually in Dec I think.

                                  Kearlydk, glad to hear your little one could do fine by himself.


                                  • Original Poster

                                    Donna... give Harvey a call... he told me at Continental Acres that vendors will be at Black Prong in February.

                                    49'er, I think thats what they mean in the rule I posted when it said "In all BUT Combined Driving Competitions..."

                                    Andrea... no new guy at Black Prong. Don't want to distract Sam with anything except her CDE. Maybe in a couple weeks a trip up to Wanda's? Sam will be staying with Bob and Brenda, Pita will be in a stall at BP, and Rose and I will drive back and forth each day (got other horses to care for).

                                    Probably won't know Sam's times until Thursday afternoon. We will be getting to BP about 2 or 2:30 on Thurs afternoon...

                                    I know Pita is ready. Today, Sunday, is his last day of long miles for training. From now until the CDE he will get a little trot work, some driven dressage, and once or twice through the cones. A short warm up Thursday afternoon and Friday he will be ready and eager to go. My worry is he will be too ready

                                    Sam, on the other hand, is not so easy. This kid has done probably close to 200 dressage shows up to and including State Championships and multiple Regional Championships. She has been demo lesson horse/rider for clinics with Michael Poulin, Walter Zettl, and Max Gahwyler. She is very familiar with center stage... You would think one more show would be no big deal, right? WRONG!! She acts like she is 8 years old and this is her first ever 4-H show! Things that she can do in her sleep she is suddenly worried about. She is afraid Pita will do things he has never even thought of doing. I'm thinking a double shot of Jack and a couple Prozacs the day of the show

                                    *Charter Member-Blue Tarp State Driving Clique*
                                    "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, you just might find you get what you need" Mick Jagger


                                    • #38
                                      What a cute little guy...yeah, I know...20th person to say that...but he is.

                                      I love driving ponies, you can hear em' swearing away under their little pony breath...

                                      Wonder if I can carry a pony on the marathon carriage as a spare in case my Shire poops out?
                                      "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"


                                      • #39
                                        Okay, I miss a few days and one pony is gone another acquired and I see something about your wife Rose and CPR in the title. NOT FUNNY !!!
                                        I had to scan through everything to make sure that you did not have to give your wife CPR. So in reference to your lovely new Caspian Horse/Pony what does CPR stand for?? You had me hyperventilating at the computer.
                                        BTW, Cyman is lovely and Rose looks happy as well. Glad that things worked out for the best. Still wondering why your pony who was known went from Dr. Jekyl to Mr. Hyde. I wonder if there is something sneaking up on him inside that would require more extensive testing. Not your problem anymore though, and you made the right decision. Congrats on the right path.
                                        Trakehner, I don't think your Shire could care less about the addition of a pony, the question is ( and your Shire wants to know ) How much will that pony swear hauling him around on the carriage when he gives out???
                                        "With courage you will dare to take risks, have the strength to be compassionate, and the wisdom to be humble. Courage is the foundation of integrity. "
                                        ...Keshavan Nair


                                        • Original Poster

                                          I'm sorry Warmheart... the original message got changed through the updates CPR stands for Christmas Pony Replacement

                                          As far as the first pony, I don't know. He was a really nice pony but he developed issues we didn't understand. I think he just really missed his old home. He just wasn't happy with us.

                                          *Charter Member-Blue Tarp State Driving Clique*
                                          "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, you just might find you get what you need" Mick Jagger