• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

driving tandem questions

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • driving tandem questions

    So i was just curious. What's the difference for the harness for a tandem? Can you convert a single harness into a tandem? Is there anything additional needed for the carriage, or is there a specific carriage set up for tandem driving?

    Any website links with more info on it that anyone can recommend?

    I'm kinda looking at a grey welsh cob mare that is the same height/build and a match in movement as my current chestnut girl... And i thought, well hmmm... I dont really want to buy a new carriage for pairs, i dont have the room for it all... But could i set up my current stuff for a tandem? I would ABSOLUTELY get lessons before throwing them together of course, but just wondering what i needed to do it, if i were to buy the other mare.

    The bonus about her is that all my existing stuff will fit her to drive her single, but it might be fun to drive a tandem one day, or it might scare the crap out of me too...
    Your Horse's Home On The Road!

  • #2
    Having recently done this myself......you need front traces about 24 inches longer, some roger rings for the wheeler bridle, a set of lloonngg reins, and terrets for the wheeler traces.

    In order to do this when I had help, and motivation, I used a length of rope with snaps on each end hooked to my traces, and old snaps off of lead ropes that died clipped onto my terrets for the leader lines.

    The lead horse needs to be comfotable with quite a bit of contact, because those longer lines are heavy, and you need to have good contact for steering. That leader also needs to know voice commands really well.

    You wil also need to run those leader traces through trace carriers.

    Be sure you have a confident helper, and they should have a whip to help the leader understand for a few times...

    Good Luck!! It is a LOT of fun!!



    • Original Poster

      I wonder it if would help to RIDE tandem before hitching them to drive? I've got some of Clay Maier's DVDs on long reining, always thought his tandem riding looked kinda interesting. It would at least put me on the steady horse i know and trust and let me be a lot closer to the front one that needs to figure out the heavier contact and being out there so far.

      The "new" mare (i havent bought her yet, i'm still waiting for gosh darn video... Word of wisdom to those people who are selling horses... Dont leave your buyers waiting forever for videos/more pics!!!!!) She isnt driving yet, so she would be learning to drive single for quite a while before i attempted this. She's technically for my son... But since i had to sell my mini to get him a better suited pony, i can at least get a lot of play time with it myself right?!

      At least it seems pretty do-able with my existing harness! Even if i need to rig some things to try it out before i spend the money on the "real" pieces.

      But it does look fun... And scary... lol
      Your Horse's Home On The Road!


      • #4
        a good book

        "Driving a Tandem" by Paul Doliveux



        • #5
          PJ Crowley at Kendalwood Farm is a tandem driver and can answer your questions and/or show you

          Lois S and Cindy V own Charming Creek Farm in Berks County. They have often brought in Clay Maier for clinics. You might contact them to see if he is coming anytime in the near future

          Good luck. THe harness conversion is probably the easiest part of tandem


          • #6
            I've been interested in tandem as well.

            My 31 yr old retiree I broke to drive a while back. He's just barely pasture sound but sure does still want to get out and go for walks on a routine basis. I've been toying with the idea of tandem driving just to get the old man out and walking once or twice a week and let him still feel like he has a job. He's old, been.there.and.done.that, bravest most steady horse I'll ever have the honor of knowing, only horse I'd ever give the esteemed title of 'bombproof' too (I've shot guns, archery and gone flyfishing off of his back), and can't trot more than a hundred yards before he's tired

            I have a friend who has done tandem and random and she's willing to come help us out.

            Its a long way off but I was actually considering seeing about getting an easily convertible tandem harness when I go to order a synthetic.

            I found this photo and it looks doable:
            Being terrible at something is the first step to being truly great at it. Struggle is the evidence of progress.


            • #7
              I am playfully entertaining the idea of getting 2 minis tandemned up together next spring. So this is such valueable information and right up my alley!! My mare and the barn owner's gelding aren't exactly a perfect match, the gelding is a little taller and more forward, but just to play in the arena and try something very new and different, this could be a lot of fun.
              eBook on Amazon - The Beginner's Guide to Buying a Horse
              My Blog - Life in 2014; Horses, Life, Photography


              • #8
                riding tandem...

                thanks Drive NJ for the kinds words...we do indeed have Clay here for clinics, although we don't have one definitely scheduled at the moment. Last one we held, decided to give tandem riding a try. My friend Meredith practiced in NC before the clinic, and I practiced here in PA. We hada blast doing a little dual demo for Clay during the clinic. We are still waiting to hear if Clay would like us to go on the road with him for his shows lol! I was riding my sister's 14yo Friesian gelding, Rein, and driving 5yo Turbo Friesian, Tjeert (who already knew how to drive, although not in any kind of pair) I will say that I found it DIFFICULT! What Clay does in his show is amazing. The handling of the lines was probably the most difficult. After the clinic I stopped tandem riding, as I was not sure it was the best thing for the younger horse, who is being prepared to drive and compete in a pair. We had a lot of fun trying it though, and it is not as easy as Clay makes it look!
                btw here are Tjeert's brothers at the Laurels last month...