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Lawsuit in Florida - alleged fraud in sale of Fabrege - Case settled - post #340

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  • Lawsuit in Florida - alleged fraud in sale of Fabrege - Case settled - post #340

    If true, isn't that called money laundering ?

  • #2


    • #3
      I wonder how Ms. Tarjan found out about this little scam......
      Holy cow, I have heard of scenarios like this but the balls it takes to represent the selling price as 1/3 of what you actually received!

      Wonder what the middle man knew and why he isn't named in the lawsuit.


      • #4
        This is why people should always sign contracts and change money directly.


        • #5
          TBH I'm not surprised about Roffman. Something about her has always rubbed me the wrong way.

          I am surprised at just how much money they took and the levels to which they stooped to do it. It certainly changes my opinion of Ots. Just.... wow.


          • #6
            well Parra and Helgestrand got caught doing this as well...maybe she thought she was smarter than them.
            Humans dont mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. Sebastian Junger


            • #7
              Originally posted by Bogey2 View Post
              well Parra and Helgestrand got caught doing this as well...maybe she thought she was smarter than them.
              Pretty sure Anky's husband Sjef got busted for the same thing a time or 2 in Florida.


              • #8
                That really stinks to high heaven. If the story is correct, the lawyers left out quite a few claims, including one for punitive damages.


                • #9
                  If this is true, then CR is a bit of a fool. If she'd been honest, she'd have cleared 90k.


                  • Original Poster

                    Can't imagine having to look over your shoulder each day, wondering when/if someone is going to find out.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Glyphica View Post
                      If this is true, then CR is a bit of a fool. If she'd been honest, she'd have cleared 90k.


                      "When I look back on my life, the times I have been stingy or unappreciative haunt me. I don't regret one instance of generosity." --PeteyPie


                      • #12
                        Why isn't she suing Ots, too? Is it because he didn't have any direct dealings with Tarjan? (Only with Peslar and Roffman)

                        I bet every person who sold (or bought) a horse through her is going to re-examine their transaction.


                        • #13
                          The article said CR has sold 2 other horses for AT.

                          Wonder if they are looking at those sales?

                          This sale doesn't read like a first-timer scam.


                          • #14
                            What became of the horse? There is no show record since being sold. .


                            • #15
                              I've heard stories over the years about stunts like this, though most on a smaller scale by far. Saw some questionable things back in my hunter days when I was at a show barn. Its sad overall for our sport.
                              As to how original owner found out, well I'm guessing someone talked...New owner boasts "I spent $900k for this awesome horse" and someone hears, someone repeats.
                              There were a surprising # of people involved in this, and that alone is scary. If it turns out to be true, one would hope that there would also be USDF/USEF consequences.


                              • #16
                                Well, if they go to jail for theft and money laundering, their chances of showing are pretty low...


                                • #17
                                  No one has gone to jail...just like the big banks they all get away with this shit.
                                  Humans dont mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. Sebastian Junger


                                  • #18
                                    Agree with B2 above^^. Defendant, if on the losing end, settle for lots of $$ and that will be it. Thus my comment about other consequences...Interesting...


                                    • #19
                                      Ruining one's own reputation in the horse world might be the only significant consequence. But with time, memories fade......and pros return to the industry.

                                      Or so I have heard.

                                      However, the IRS may have some interest in the case, too.
                                      "When I look back on my life, the times I have been stingy or unappreciative haunt me. I don't regret one instance of generosity." --PeteyPie


                                      • #20
                                        Ouch! What a bunch of cheating, thieving, crooks.