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  • Trouble in the nether reigons!!!

    I am learning to ride dressage and love it but often get really sore in the "nether region." More specificlly my labia minoras are getting rubbed raw!! They do protrude beyond the majoras. I bought the dressage padded undies and they helped somewhat. I tried trimming the hair very short. I have days that my ride goes well with no "injuries". Then other days that I just have to stop riding. Then I have to give it a few days to heal so I miss my ride and that aggrivates me. My trainer says that she "loves" my seat but I can't help but think that I am doing something wrong to cause this. I decided to shave every thing off and todays ride went well although it was a short ride. I'll have to see how it goes next "regular" schooling session. I was wondering if anyone else has this problem and can give me any advice. I may look into having a cosmetic surgeon correct them if I can't get some relief. I just want to be sure it is not my position first. Thanks all.
    "Success comes in cans, not in cannots!"

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    I've been there. Check that you are not "perching" in the saddle. Even a slight forward tilt of your pelvis can result in rubs. Seat bones should be straight down. Also, check the twist of your saddle. Good luck.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dalfan View Post
      I've been there. Check that you are not "perching" in the saddle. Even a slight forward tilt of your pelvis can result in rubs. Seat bones should be straight down. Also, check the twist of your saddle. Good luck.
      I agree fully with what Dalfan said! I never had the problem personally but I have had friends that would sit more forward on their crotch instead of the seat bones. Once they sat further back they did not have the problem anymore. It could look very similar from your instructor watching on the ground if you are leaning too far with your pelvis or on your seat bones. Try some different positions and have your instructor watch so you get into the right position.

      If you have check your sitting position then it could be saddle fit. Try a narrow and wide and see if it makes a difference, even if you have to borrow a saddle from someone for a lesson. I know I can not ride in a narrow twist or everything hurts

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      • #4
        I don't have the perching problem, and I easily have the OPs problems if I am not in a saddle that fits me, which isn't very many I'm afraid.

        I would definitely look at saddle fit, and try out some other high quality saddles with different seat types.

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        • #5
          OK, since we're on this, umm, touchy subject, I'm frequently plagued with boil-like lumps, mostly on what WOULD be the pantyline area of the crotch, but occasionally further out onto my inner thigh. Like an in-grown hair on steroids. I also use the padded bikeshort types, but it doesn't always help. I'm in mostly custom high quality saddles. Is this just the life? I do ride several a day, but this halts me in my tracks..
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          Standing - FEI champion "North Forks Cardi" and 2008 HOTY "Diamondhead".

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          • #6
            Originally posted by eqeq View Post
            OK, since we're on this, umm, touchy subject, I'm frequently plagued with boil-like lumps, mostly on what WOULD be the pantyline area of the crotch, but occasionally further out onto my inner thigh. Like an in-grown hair on steroids. I also use the padded bikeshort types, but it doesn't always help. I'm in mostly custom high quality saddles. Is this just the life? I do ride several a day, but this halts me in my tracks..
            I'm sorry, but am I the ONLY one gagging over this entire thread!!!!???

            Ahhhhh.....the visuals that I so didn't need! And while we are on the subject cosmetic surgery to fix what? Ahhhhh!!! Oh no forget I asked!!!
            Mountain View Farm
            Diva 5-7-07, Dolce 5-19-08, Devo 6-10-09

            When handling yourself....use your head. When handling your horse....use your heart!<3

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dressage72 View Post
              I'm sorry, but am I the ONLY one gagging over this entire thread!!!!???

              Ahhhhh.....the visuals that I so didn't need! And while we are on the subject cosmetic surgery to fix what? Ahhhhh!!! Oh no forget I asked!!!
              Now that's what I call a thread killer- jeez lady- what's so bad about discussing these things on a predominantly female board? I know that also some guys I know that ride dressage have the same problem- boils especially.
              Now the OP problem to me has to potentially do with:

              The saddle twist
              Hair getting in the way
              position- being way to much on the 'front' and not enough on the 'butt'.
              being really out of alignment (this applies when only one side gets rubbed raw- then you know for sure that you are not straight and even- time for a really good chiro...

              just my 5c and please carry on....in case you need some good chiro referrals - please pm me.
              "the man mite be the head but the woman is the neck and the neck can turn the head any way she wants..." -smart greek woman

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sabine View Post
                Now that's what I call a thread killer- jeez lady- what's so bad about discussing these things on a predominantly female board? I know that also some guys I know that ride dressage have the same problem- boils especially.
                Now the OP problem to me has to potentially do with:

                The saddle twist
                Hair getting in the way
                position- being way to much on the 'front' and not enough on the 'butt'.
                being really out of alignment (this applies when only one side gets rubbed raw- then you know for sure that you are not straight and even- time for a really good chiro...

                just my 5c and please carry on....in case you need some good chiro referrals - please pm me.
                I have NEVER ever been a thread killer, but there are certain things you just don't post about......shaving pubic hair being one of them.

                It is a public board that anybody can read....including men sooooo
                Mountain View Farm
                Diva 5-7-07, Dolce 5-19-08, Devo 6-10-09

                When handling yourself....use your head. When handling your horse....use your heart!<3

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                • #9
                  I used to ride a client's horse who had a Schleese saddle - it would rub me raw! I had to use Anti Monkey-Butt powder, full-seats, and padded undies. It would still hurt. I have never had a problem in my saddles (a Niedersuss, a Prestige, and an Amerigo) so I assume it has to do with the saddle brand and/or seat style and not my particular riding style.

                  OP - you could also try a gel saddle seat cover, which would give you some more cushion. I know some H/J people who use them - I think Dover sells them in case you want to check it out.

                  As for boils - ew! - I think they are ingrown hairs from rubbing. Honestly? I lance them with a needle, pop them, and rub alcohol 3-4 times a day and they go away very fast.
                  Most friendships in the horse world are just an opinion away from doom.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dressage72 View Post
                    I have NEVER ever been a thread killer, but there are certain things you just don't post about......shaving pubic hair being one of them.

                    It is a public board that anybody can read....including men sooooo
                    But we can talk about sewing a mare's vulva lips in a caslick's operation over in the Sport Horse Breeding forum. Why are we afraid to talk about our vaginas? What is this - a 1950's forum?
                    Most friendships in the horse world are just an opinion away from doom.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GreekDressageQueen View Post
                      But we can talk about sewing a mare's vulva lips in a caslick's operation over in the Sport Horse Breeding forum. Why are we afraid to talk about our vaginas? What is this - a 1950's forum?
                      Totally different....but carry on!
                      Mountain View Farm
                      Diva 5-7-07, Dolce 5-19-08, Devo 6-10-09

                      When handling yourself....use your head. When handling your horse....use your heart!<3

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dressage72 View Post
                        I have NEVER ever been a thread killer, but there are certain things you just don't post about......shaving pubic hair being one of them.

                        It is a public board that anybody can read....including men sooooo
                        says who...??? 80% of our youth is shaving their private areas- if you haven't been aware- please be.
                        Men- well they Know about that fact...LOL! and most of the ones who read this- really just grin...!
                        (and I mean this very kindly- it's really not such a big deal).
                        "the man mite be the head but the woman is the neck and the neck can turn the head any way she wants..." -smart greek woman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dressage72 View Post
                          I have NEVER ever been a thread killer, but there are certain things you just don't post about......shaving pubic hair being one of them.

                          It is a public board that anybody can read....including men sooooo
                          Yup, it's a public board (or should that be pubic?). However, most of us don't use our names and if we want to be completely anonymous can use an alter. I have absolutely no problem telling the WWW that I don't shave my pubes...I use Veet instead.

                          ROFLMAO. If reading about "nether regions" worries you, don't open threads with such obvious titles.

                          I'm sure there are 1,000s of men out there Googling for women with the "Inverness" problem and rushing over to COTH for their fix of pube shave threads.
                          Founder of the Olde Farte Clique

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                          • #14
                            d72,

                            I'm thinking you've never suffered from either of these concerns. Those of us who have couldn't care less WHO knows if it'd solve the problem and get us back in the saddle...

                            and

                            Yes, I've tried the lancing and used tea tree oil and neosporin - think alcohol is better??
                            www.eqequestrian.com

                            Standing - FEI champion "North Forks Cardi" and 2008 HOTY "Diamondhead".

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                            • #15
                              As the above poster alluded, try doing a search on the Inverness Problem. You will find a wealth of information.
                              The Evil Chem Prof

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                              • #16
                                No never had a problem. Sorry if I find it strange....I dunno. Believe me I have teenagers and am fine to talk about anything.....and I mean anything!!! Just found it so odd to be posted on the board. I just have never seen anything like that posted, but if it helps somebody I guess I'm all for it!

                                *Edited to add after I went and searched: I had no idea there was such a thing as labiaplasty!! My goodness I didnt realize you could alter Miss Puss's lips!! Learn something new everyday!
                                Mountain View Farm
                                Diva 5-7-07, Dolce 5-19-08, Devo 6-10-09

                                When handling yourself....use your head. When handling your horse....use your heart!<3

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                                • #17
                                  To the OP: I feel your pain. When I'm not riding horses, I'm on a bike, and while having similar problems I thought I'd try the cyclist's solution. It totally works for riding horses, too. Get thee to REI and find some Chamois Butt'r. It's an anti-chafing cream that conditions the skin and softens the fabrics causing the friction, and it really, really works. It also lasts for hours, as it's meant to hold up to the demands of the long distance cyclist.

                                  Just slather it on the parts having issues as well as the seams of your breeches and undergarments (I don't quite slather there, just a light coating,) and while it won't solve position or tack issues, it should stop the rawness.

                                  I would give this a try before contemplating surgery. Good luck!

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                                  • #18
                                    Try different saddles.

                                    Until you find one that works, a sheepskin seat saver is your friend.

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                                    • #19
                                      D72 - Exactly

                                      I'm actually with d72 on this one. It's like an accident...I don't want to look/read, but have to because I find it so bizarre to address this publicly!

                                      I read because it amazes me that people write about this type of "stuff" on a bb! I wonder how people will respond. The first bizarre thread was the labiaplasty thread. I thought it was a troll, baiting the board, but as I read on, I realized it was for real.

                                      Geeeezzzz, you know what they say...different strokes....

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Dalfan View Post
                                        I've been there. Check that you are not "perching" in the saddle. Even a slight forward tilt of your pelvis can result in rubs. Seat bones should be straight down. Also, check the twist of your saddle. Good luck.
                                        Yep, yep.

                                        It's ... well, enough to make a person quit riding.

                                        Tilt your pelvis back so you're sitting on the BACK edge of what you think are your seat bones, not what might seem like directly on top. Your horse will thank you for it, too. Made all the difference in my ability to sit a big trot.

                                        And yes to checking the saddle as well. It happened to me in a saddle that's too small. Don't be vain about using an 18" saddle ... nobody needs to know the size ... just buy what works for you.

                                        Re: the boils ... I used to have them, too. (Sorry ... if this grosses you out, don't read! But believe me, it's worse to have.) Change right away after you ride. Change everything ... wear dry clothes that are air-permeable. And powder with corn starch. Yep, that's what my doctor recommended.

                                        I also got a perscription for clinamyacin ... it's a topical that helps them go away very quickly. I really would see a doctor about this to be sure the boils aren't a symptom of something worse ... and if not, ask for the solution. It's been wonderful for me.

                                        Btw, the more correctly I sit, the less frequently I have boils. In fact, I can't remember the last time!!
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