• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

When coats are waived at recognized shows...

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • When coats are waived at recognized shows...

    The USEF rule book says if coats are wavied, a solid white or very pale colored long or short sleeved shirt. No t-shirts or neck wear.

    I am looking into new shirts for this summers show season.

    I have shown in the Rider Sport (both the white with purple trim and the pink trim). http://www.doversaddlery.com/riding-...1-20537/cn/24/ I have never had a judge say anything. But this shirt is HOT, too thick for summer. I was at a recognized show a few weeks ago and saw riders in all colors of shirts. I saw one in particluar that was a light blue, but pretty dark (if that makes sense).

    I bought a romfh today at the tack store. They call the color thistle. It looks like a dingy white/light gray to me. I think it will be fine, but I would hate to be eliminated for something stupid like the color of my shirt.

    I can never get a white show shirt and white breeches to be the same color white. I show in white FITS breeches.

    What colors do you show in once coats are wavied? Of those you you who have seen the "thistle" color, what do you think?

    I prefer to show in my coat even when coats are wavied, but98 degrees with humidity is not worth riding in the coat.

  • #2
    I'm pretty sure this rule has been changed to any SOLID color shirt, though it might not take effect until next year. Aside from that, I have always just ridden in a nice lightweight polo. You can find cheap ones at WalMart that are perfectly acceptable. My last one was $10.

    Comment


    • #3
      The thistle sounds acceptable to me based on your description - however, I recommend you ask the TD at your next show. I've seen many a TD asked and they cite the rulebook re light/white... but they also will give you a "that's too dark" comment.

      Otherwise, ask show management to ask the judge what he/she finds acceptable.
      Originally posted by SmartAlex

      Give it up. Many of us CoTHers are trapped at a computer all day with no way out, and we hunt in packs. So far it as all been in good fun. You should be thankful for that.

      Comment


      • #4
        Hampton Bay is correct: the rule now says solid or nearly solid, no more pale requirement. Thistle sounds fine.

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #5
          Thanks. I found the new rule on the USEF site under the 2010 supplement to the Rule Book.

          Competitors may wear solid or nearly solid short sleeved or long sleeved shirt with a collar without decoration.

          I wish I had of looked this up sooner, there was a really cool looking lilac shirt at the tack store that would have been legal. Oh well.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by tabula rashah
            "I don't know why they all think they'll look better with a coat, they just look stupid and hot".
            No, riders in jackets do not look 'stupid'. Riders, especially those large breasted and overweight, are the ones that would look better keeping the jacket on. Why detract from your horse by looking like a white glacier.

            It's easy to figure out which show you were at, so the judge had to be either Gwinn, Freeman, or Devoe. Since Gwinn is a real stickler for appearance, I don't think it would have been her. I would be surprised if Freeman would say something out of line like that, so it must have been Devoe. I'm curious who it was, because I show under Gwinn and Freeman often, and wearing a coat always.

            Comment


            • #7
              Its not that they "look" stupid, its that they ARE stupid for risking their health for the sake of appearance. Heatstroke is not something to be fooled with. Admittedly, people's tolerance varies and maybe TonF is favorably endowed in this ability.

              Those overweight ladies that might look better in a coat are the ones even more predisposed to heatstroke, so to criticize them for not wearing one when they probably know their bodies better than you is petty.

              I doubt a single judge would admit they have a predjudice against coatless riders - it is legal after all. If anyone ever gets a comment about turnout related to coat, I would hope they would fill out a complaint to the USEF.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Schiffon View Post
                Its not that they "look" stupid, its that they ARE stupid for risking their health for the sake of appearance. Heatstroke is not something to be fooled with. Admittedly, people's tolerance varies and maybe TonF is favorably endowed in this ability.
                I know a lot of people here don't have shirts suitable for wearing without a coat under their coats are shows - they're wearing tank tops with bib-type neckware to minimize hear without the expectation that coats will be waived. Mid-summer, yes, folks expect waived coats as it'll be over 100 degrees, but spring and fall people often get caught unprepared. Then, I think they're just unprepared, not stupid.

                (I've learned from it happening to others, so will attempt to not make that mistake!)
                Originally posted by Silverbridge
                If you get anything on your Facebook feed about who is going to the Olympics in 2012 or guessing the outcome of Bush v Gore please start threads about those, too.

                Comment


                • #9
                  I buy polos. Our local department store had several in light shades that were attractive. I ended up with lilac, pink, teal, and a nice shade of green.
                  Susan B.
                  http://canterberrymeadows.com/

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I like collared hiking shirts.
                    They wick sweat to keep you cool, have SPF protection, are cut nicely and come in many colors.
                    See those flying monkeys? They work for me.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I agree with Schiffon...how ridiculous to risk your health just to look pretty. If you, as a spectator, don't like seeing fat girls ride, don't watch them ride their tests. Plain and simple. Oh, wait...a lot of people LIKE watching the fat girls ride because it just gives them something to complain about and someone else to make snarky comments about as well. I, personally, am not going to dink around with heat exhaustion just because my big boobs, tummy, and J-Lo ass happen to offend everyone else. Just be thankful that at least I'm not out there cranking my very willing and patient horse into some fake ass frame and pounding on her back because I'm incapable of riding correctly.
                      "I was not expecting the park rangers to lead the resistance, none of the dystopian novels I read prepared me for this but cool."

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        LOL, well I'm overweight and still a bit overendowed, and short and shortwaisted to boot.

                        I prefer the term "stout" actually.

                        Most short fat people agree that the monochrome look is best, don't cut an otherwise short chunky object into shorter chunky objects.

                        The trick is to avoid tucking the shirt in. It doesn't have to look sloppy, find a shirt with princess seams that ends a few inches below the waist. I've seen them in the Dover catalog, but then again, I don't show
                        I wasn't always a Smurf
                        Penmerryl's Sophie RIDSH
                        "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
                        The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I have a nice navy polo that looks nice with my liver chestnut mare - I show in that for schooling shows. For recognized I show in a plain while short sleeved show shirt with collar open.
                          Now in Kentucky

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            For those worried about jackets being waived and not looking "good" without, why not go with the new rule that allows a lightweight vest? I just purchased an inexpensive but fitted/tailored saddleseat vest in navy to wear on "those" days. It's neat, tidy and no where near as heavy as a frock or tails. By next year I'm willing to bet the dressage market will be seeing far more expensive versions. They also will allow a coolmedics vest or something similar to be worn under or without a coat in the interest of health and safety; but, I don't have the pennies to spend on something like that.
                            Ranch of Last Resort

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              If they waive coats it's for your safety. Who wants to get the vapors in a pirouette and go splat? Take the coat off!

                              Any decent sporting goods store carries high-tech short sleeve shirts- golf shirts, polos, call them what you will. Columbia is my favorite brand, and the Lady Hanes aren't bad either.

                              Lose the coat so you don't end up being yard darted when the heat gets to you. That just makes sense.

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                The hiking shirts are nice, and keep you cool. Since they aren't geared toward horse people, you can find some good deals, too!

                                The FITS waffleweave shirt, in white or champage (pale peach) is nice and very light. They are spendy, around $65, but they are pretty nice, well-made, comfortable and cool. We only ended up with one because it was a high-point award. My daughter was the only JR rider at a schooling show this winter -- she cleaned the place up!

                                So, my daughter is doing some clinics and a young rider camp this summer. For the young riders, they are fairly strict, I imagine to limit distractions. She didn't really want to spend a lot of money on polos that she won't wear to school and that are used for riding anyway so are prone to "horse dirt." We stopped at our local GoodWill and picked up four polos for under $25. Three are Aropostatle (sp?) (popular with the kids), and one was from Lacoste, with the tags. She found white, very pale pink, sea green and black. Just a thought for anyone trying to save some money on riding clothes.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Several judges have told me that they dislike seeing riders in jackets when jackets have been waived for heat.

                                  In fact, they wish it were possible to "ban" jackets instead of just waiving them.

                                  But I am sure there are other judges who think otherwise.

                                  Just don't think that sweltering in your jacket is necessarily going to make a good impression on the judge.

                                  With regard to tucking in, the Dressage rules don't seem to say anything, but the Eventing rules say that the shirt must be "neatly tucked in".
                                  Janet

                                  chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

                                  Comment

                                  Working...
                                  X