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Pat Parelli Fixing Beatriz Ferrar-Salaat's Athens horse, roping her other hrs off him

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  • Pat Parelli Fixing Beatriz Ferrar-Salaat's Athens horse, roping her other hrs off him

    We were enlightened recently by Pat Parelli. Summing up, Thank God for Pat Parelli. Beatriz begged him to come and help her with a problem with her horse and he showed her the way. He also roped her other horses off this horse. All the horses benefitted greatly especially from the experience of being roped. Plus he was able to straighten out her training. After he fixed that horse then he was asked to go see GP after GP dressage horse and straighten them out too.

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    I hear the train a'commin', its rollin' round the bend, and I ain't seen the sunshine..................

    Seriously, though, tell us more?????
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    • #3
      No, please don't.

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        Im already sick to my stomach Susan, now you have made it worse!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by slc2 View Post
          We were enlightened recently by Pat Parelli. Summing up, Thank God for Pat Parelli. Beatriz begged him to come and help her with a problem with her horse and he showed her the way. He also roped her other horses off this horse. All the horses benefitted greatly especially from the experience of being roped. Plus he was able to straighten out her training. After he fixed that horse then he was asked to go see GP after GP dressage horse and straighten them out too.
          What was the problem he fixed? Where did you read this?

          I had a little pony who was raised on a 2000 acres. He was never handled and they roped him to catch him. The poor thing was so tramatized, it took him like 2 years to get over that. I can't imagine what good can come out of roping your horse. Someone care to enlighten me on why you would rope a horse that you can easier catch with a halter?

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            #6
            well i got a little early christmas present of seeing mr pat parelli. and this is what he told us. and i hear roping is MARVELOUS for horse's joint health!

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            • #7
              Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Why do you give this the time of day, unless you have no life. Go ride your horse and give it a rest.

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              • #8
                Is this for real? I'd love to hear the details.

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                • #9
                  Roping a horse has a number of uses. First, with a green horse it is a great way to start teaching a horse to yield to pressure while being far enough away from the horse to avoid being killed. Second, by roping the individual feet you can easily teach a green horse to pick up its feet and to yield to pressure around the feet. That is a great thing to have going for you if the horse ever gets tangled in the fence or wire. Third, if you ever plan on roping off your horse it is a way to get your horse used to ropes. You can teach a horse virtually everything it needs to know about rope handling from the ground. I certainly would rather be on the ground the first time the rope goes up under the horse's tail.

                  Nobody is talking about roping and hog tying a horse like a team roper would a cow. We are talking about gently roping with a soft rope in a confined area. And using a long rope so the horse never really comes up hard and fast to it. I have roped all of my horses. And I rope off of them as well. That experience sure came in handy when we were foxhunting and my horse got a piece of wire tangled around his leg. He just stood still until I untangled it. I have watched other horses struggle in a similar situation and get cut up.

                  So, you really shouldn't make fun of things when you don't have the experience or understand the purpose of what is going on. Or just because it is Pat Parelli. I don't buy into PP's program but he is not an idiot or a terrible horseman.

                  Dave

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                  • #10
                    Wow. Who knew? We have two new foals at the barn and no one's thought about using ropes on them. Obviously they need to be enlightened.

                    I love hearing Pat Parelli trainwrecks! I say, bring it on!
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                    • #11
                      "First, with a green horse it is a great way to start teaching a horse to yield to pressure while being far enough away from the horse to avoid being killed. Second, by roping the individual feet you can easily teach a green horse to pick up its feet and to yield to pressure around the feet."

                      I have to say I've never felt I was in enough danger when starting young horses to be 'killed' what kind of horses are you working with? A properly started youngster is usually quite willing to do everything asked of him/her in a sane reasonable manner. I really don't see how roping a baby could lead to anything but traumatization. You don't need a rope to teach a horse how to pick up his feet, it's something they will do from birth so why complicate matters by flinging a rope around them? Not trying to attack anyone I'm just honestly confused as I've never even heard the word 'rope' mentioned in conversations about starting horses...is this really what PP preaches? Glad I never took the time to listen to him then...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SillyMe View Post
                        Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Why do you give this the time of day, unless you have no life. Go ride your horse and give it a rest.
                        Why would a DQ like SLC even WANT to see PP?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hedmbl View Post
                          Not trying to attack anyone I'm just honestly confused as I've never even heard the word 'rope' mentioned in conversations about starting horses...
                          I have. I've seen roping used to teach a less than submissive horse to yield when asked. The horses in question weren't wild or unhandled, they just didn't think they needed to pay attention to the human. There was nothing horrible or violent about the roping. Other than being startled, the horses didn't really get upset. It was used more like a whip -- an extension of the handler.

                          The catch is that the handler has to be very VERY good with a rope. Otherwise, it's a disaster waiting to happen.


                          I have no idea what Mr. Parelli was doing. And it sounds like slc doesn't either.

                          ETA -- These horses weren't babies. No one in their right mind is going to rope a foal. That's stupid.
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                            Am I the ONLY one who thinks the original post was done tongue-in-cheek?
                            Last edited by RHdobes563; Dec. 9, 2007, 05:35 PM. Reason: grammar
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                            • #15
                              First, with a green horse it is a great way to start teaching a horse to yield to pressure while being far enough away from the horse to avoid being killed.
                              Holey freakin' Moley!!!
                              What sort of pressure are you putting on a horse that you run the risk of getting killed?
                              Haaaaallllllooooooo!!!! Happy Athlete anyone?

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                              • #16
                                We were enlightened recently by Pat Parelli. Summing up, Thank God for Pat Parelli. Beatriz begged him to come and help her with a problem with her horse and he showed her the way. He also roped her other horses off this horse. All the horses benefitted greatly especially from the experience of being roped. Plus he was able to straighten out her training. After he fixed that horse then he was asked to go see GP after GP dressage horse and straighten them out too.
                                well i got a little early christmas present of seeing mr pat parelli. and this is what he told us. and i hear roping is MARVELOUS for horse's joint health!
                                So have you really lost the plot this time or humour? I can't tell.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by RHdobes563 View Post
                                  Am I the ONLY one who think's the original post was done tongue-in-cheek?
                                  That was my impression. I'm guessing it is a completely tongue-in-cheek post that is either (or a combination of):

                                  a.) a failed attempt at humor
                                  b.) to get a reaction from others

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by fiona View Post
                                    So have you really lost the plot this time or humour? I can't tell.

                                    A few things have been lost in this thread.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by fiona View Post
                                      Holey freakin' Moley!!!
                                      What sort of pressure are you putting on a horse that you run the risk of getting killed?
                                      Haaaaallllllooooooo!!!! Happy Athlete anyone?
                                      If I may be so bold as to suggest that Dave used the word killed in the figurative sense?

                                      Training a horse to accept pressure around the legs might be a lifesaver for him some day.

                                      I have had a horse freak out more than once with a wire around the leg. Once out hand walking in the woods we didn't see an old piece of fence. My horse stepped into it, felt the wire around his hind foot and - literally - jumped into my lap. He was fine. I was not.

                                      Another one of mine got his leg tangled in a wire fence and fought it and got cut up.

                                      And recently I was trying to catch a neighbor's loose horse. He stepped into an old wire fence near the road, panicked and yanked the foot back, and the wire sliced a nice deep cut down through his heel bulb.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by RHdobes563 View Post
                                        Am I the ONLY one who think's the original post was done tongue-in-cheek?
                                        What are you suggesting? A sense of ... humor?

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