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  • Steffen Peters and Floriano


    I'm curious as to what kind of financial deal would have been involved with showing only one horse? A salary comparable to what he could make showing/training for all of his other clients as well? I find this a strange request to ask a top trainer/rider to only ride one horse, but if they were going to pay him appropriately I guess it could have been a pretty sweet deal.

  • #2
    As there always two sides to a story, I would be interested in what the Browning's reasoning is.


    • #3
      Does this mean he also doesn't have San Rubin anymore? Or did the Brownings' son already take over the ride on that horse?


      • #4
        Last edited by STF; Oct. 30, 2007, 04:16 PM.
        Home of Puerto D'Azur - 1998 NA 100 Day Test Champion
        "Charcter is much easier kept than recovered"


        • #5
          Originally posted by vagabondrider View Post
          Does this mean he also doesn't have San Rubin anymore? Or did the Brownings' son already take over the ride on that horse?
          And if that's the case, did they take that horse with them, too? Sounds like the Brownings have left Peters' barn altogether.


          • #6
            Just glad I got to see the pair at the 2007 World Cup. The GP ride was goosebump material.


            • #7
              How about we not jump to conclusions and instead, take things at face-value?
              Nothing worth having comes easily.


              • #8
                Last edited by STF; Oct. 30, 2007, 04:16 PM.
                Home of Puerto D'Azur - 1998 NA 100 Day Test Champion
                "Charcter is much easier kept than recovered"


                • #9
                  You obviously have not met Steffan...And BTW, I have read 2 or 3 articles he has been interviewed in in the past, which clearly give credit to Flori's original owners/sponsors...

                  There are 2 sides to every story, just as there are some things that seem like big, nasty dramas on the surface, when in reality they're no big deal, and everyone's doing just fine.
                  Nothing worth having comes easily.


                  • #10
                    Last edited by STF; Oct. 30, 2007, 04:16 PM.
                    Home of Puerto D'Azur - 1998 NA 100 Day Test Champion
                    "Charcter is much easier kept than recovered"


                    • #11
                      I wonder if Guenter will take over the ride?


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by STF View Post
                        There are things you dont know GC, thats all I can say..........

                        No kidding, there are LOTS of things I don't know...any tips for memorizing solubility rules?

                        I'm just saying, 9 times out of 10, the conclusions people jump to initially (myself included) are usually nowhere near reality.

                        And, if you had spent any time with the man, you would be very hard pressed to believe he deliberately lies about Flori's past as you have stated....If it was such a big deal, why hasn't Melanie tried harder to get "the truth" out in public?!

                        I really don't want to get into this, but I am just saying that none of us hardly ever know both sides of the unbiased truth....
                        Nothing worth having comes easily.


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by STF View Post
                          There are things you dont know GC, thats all I can say..........

                          Yes, I quite agree.

                          I think it's very interesting how the horse's training history has been completely misrepresented. Not many people actually know that Floriano was previously scoring in the 70's at Grand Prix (at Del Mar, no less) with the Pais' former trainer, which was why Stefan was able to step in so neatly and qualify for the Olympics such a short time after getting the ride. The Pais' head trainer at the time worked with them to pick out Floriano and Gucci.

                          If you read Stefan's version of history in various articles, he would have you believe he took a horse completely unconfirmed at FEI and magically transformed it into an international horse overnight. It would be an wonderful, heart-warming story if it was actually true.



                          • #14
                            I don't know anyone involved personally, but I DID know that Steffan was NOT Floriano's original trainer. I must have read it somewhere.

                            So, who WAS the "Pais' head trainer"? How can we be impressed by someone even you don't name?
                            \"I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed.\"--Pogo


                            • #15
                              Its not as if Steffen Peters took over the ride and the horse went to hell in a hand basket...

                              Who knows why things are "marketed" the way they are...the new owner's desire for "credit", the writers slant, or a general desire to solidify the current horse and rider team in the judges/public's mind...

                              or just poorly managed communications and expectations.

                              OR perhaps it the phenomenan that no one is ever happy when they sell something of value...it is not unusual to feel "ripped off" or as if one is not treated quite right.


                              • #16
                                As some one else said, why is no one naming the PAi's rider here? Here's a chance to give some credit to the person but there is no name given???


                                • #17
                                  In 2004 Steffen Peters rode Floriano when he was owned by Melanie Pai. She is listed as the owner in Peters' Olympic profile in 2004.

                                  In 2005 there is a story about the Brownings purchasing Floriano from Melanie Pai mentioning that Peters will keep the ride.

                                  So unless Melanie Pai bred him or trained him it seems she is getting credit for importing and owning him (which is a very behind the scenes place to be once ownership changes).


                                  • #18
                                    trying again

                                    Not many people actually know that Floriano was previously scoring in the 70's at Grand Prix (at Del Mar, no less) with the Pais' former trainer,
                                    What was the rider's name? Just curious.


                                    • #19
                                      Floriano"s Training

                                      Pam Grace trained Floriano to Grand Prix.


                                      • #20
                                        Home not feeling well - surfing web for entertainment....
                                        Paraphrased from Pam Fowler Grace's web site. Pam brought Floriano back from Germany (owned by Melanie Pai) and showed him in the 2003 season at the GP. He got scores into the 70th percentile. "He then went on to be chosen" as an alternate for the USET for the 2004 Olympics.

                                        The site does not not state who trained the horse to GP or at what level the horse was schooling when he was purchased. The site also does not say that Pam had the ride on Floriano when he was chosen as an alternate for the Olympics.
                                        Last edited by Hazelnut; Oct. 29, 2007, 11:05 AM. Reason: to get rid of annoying font things