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  • About rollkur

    Hi,

    This just to inform you about a ipetition against rollkur

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/fei/index.html


    and here for the pictures http://collectif-petitionfei.blog4ev...41-489532.html

    Best Wishes to all
    Last edited by Jessica33; Oct. 23, 2007, 04:18 AM. Reason: the adress was wrong
  • Original Poster

    #2
    up!

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    • #3
      Technically

      I don't believe those pictures of Power and Paint are considered Rollkur, just horrid Lunging practice.

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      • #4
        Thanks, Jessica.



        Could you also post this on TheOther DressageBoard? (A more sophisticated audience, I think.)

        PM me if you need the address - I couldn't figure out how to post it there myself.

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        • Original Poster

          #5
          Originally posted by Red Barn View Post
          Thanks, Jessica.



          Could you also post this on TheOther DressageBoard? (A more sophisticated audience, I think.)

          PM me if you need the address - I couldn't figure out how to post it there myself.
          I've PM you

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          • #6
            Could you also post this on TheOther DressageBoard? (A more sophisticated audience, I think.)

            PM me if you need the address - I couldn't figure out how to post it there myself.
            Not sophisticated enough to post a link?


            PLEASE Post this there too:

            "Online"

            I work down at the trail barn
            And I fantasy ride a Breyer Cross
            I still don’t know my diagonals
            but at least I can post

            I'm a Breyer fan
            Mild asthmatic
            Never been to a show
            But there's a whole nother me
            That you need to see
            Go check out me on COTH

            'cause online I'm down on the A circuit
            I'm 5’9 and I look damn good
            I ride a Dutch Warmblood
            I'm an A judge in dressage
            And I love a self carried passage

            It turns fans on that I'm mysterious
            I tell 'em I don't like to show- it’s not classical
            'cause even on a bad day I can get a perfect piaffe
            I can even ride- two horses at one time

            I'm so much cooler online
            So much cooler online

            I get home, I kiss my Arab Cross
            And put her in her breyer paddock
            I head down to my basement bedroom
            And fire up the Mac

            In real life the only time I
            Ever even been to an A show
            Was when I got a link to Anky’s test from an online friend
            And Finally Saw Grand Prix

            Online I live in Wellington
            I ride with George Morris, I've been in PH
            I'm single and I'm rich
            And I’ve got an auto release that'll blow your mind

            It turns fans on that I'm mysterious
            I tell 'em I don't like to show- it’s so judgemental
            'cause even on a bad day I can find a perfect eight
            I can even ride- two horses at one time

            I'm so much cooler online
            Yeah I'm cooler online

            When you got my kinda stats, it's hard to get over a crossrail
            Let alone a real 3’6
            But I can jump another 3’
            And my equitation really improves every time I log on

            Online I'm out in West Palm Beach
            I'm 5’8 and I look damn good
            Even on a fat day, I can wear a 24 in two way stretch
            I can ride with two trainers at one time

            I'm so much cooler online
            Yeah I'm cooler online
            I'm so much cooler online
            Yeah I'm cooler online


            credit to magnolia73

            If they are 'sophisticated' they'll get it . If not, they may claim you are 14.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by egontoast View Post
              Not sophisticated enough to post a link?


              PLEASE Post this there too:

              "Online"

              I work down at the trail barn
              And I fantasy ride a Breyer Cross
              I still don’t know my diagonals
              but at least I can post

              I'm a Breyer fan
              Mild asthmatic
              Never been to a show
              But there's a whole nother me
              That you need to see
              Go check out me on COTH

              'cause online I'm down on the A circuit
              I'm 5’9 and I look damn good
              I ride a Dutch Warmblood
              I'm an A judge in dressage
              And I love a self carried passage

              It turns fans on that I'm mysterious
              I tell 'em I don't like to show- it’s not classical
              'cause even on a bad day I can get a perfect piaffe
              I can even ride- two horses at one time

              I'm so much cooler online
              So much cooler online

              I get home, I kiss my Arab Cross
              And put her in her breyer paddock
              I head down to my basement bedroom
              And fire up the Mac

              In real life the only time I
              Ever even been to an A show
              Was when I got a link to Anky’s test from an online friend
              And Finally Saw Grand Prix

              Online I live in Wellington
              I ride with George Morris, I've been in PH
              I'm single and I'm rich
              And I’ve got an auto release that'll blow your mind

              It turns fans on that I'm mysterious
              I tell 'em I don't like to show- it’s so judgemental
              'cause even on a bad day I can find a perfect eight
              I can even ride- two horses at one time

              I'm so much cooler online
              Yeah I'm cooler online

              When you got my kinda stats, it's hard to get over a crossrail
              Let alone a real 3’6
              But I can jump another 3’
              And my equitation really improves every time I log on

              Online I'm out in West Palm Beach
              I'm 5’8 and I look damn good
              Even on a fat day, I can wear a 24 in two way stretch
              I can ride with two trainers at one time

              I'm so much cooler online
              Yeah I'm cooler online
              I'm so much cooler online
              Yeah I'm cooler online


              credit to magnolia73

              If they are 'sophisticated' they'll get it . If not, they may claim you are 14.
              I love it, egontoast (or I should say that to magnolia73...). Nice spin on Brad Paisley's original "Online".
              Proud owner of Gus & Gringo.
              See G2's blog
              Photos

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              • #8
                For some dumb reason I liked the original version...but I like this one even better!!! Great job!

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                • #9
                  There seem to be a lot of new posters (or alters) on the board lately, and my "ignore list" is growing by leaps and bounds. For those new to dressage and the very old hyperflexion (rollkur) controversy, I am posting what I think is a rather well reasoned article on the topic. I hope that the less opinionated among you will be educated and somewhat enlightened.

                  http://www.myhorsefly.com/read/9/

                  I don't know who the author of this blog is, but that should not detract from the logic of his position.
                  "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller

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                  • #10
                    My knowledge of dressage is really limited, but I've been riding forever- and there is always something that in the hands of a pro can get that last .5% of performance out of a horse, and in the hands of an amateur, can ruin a horse. Whether it's a bit, a method of riding, or an artificial aid.

                    I don't care for the photos I see of rollkur- somehow, I don't think it has a place for my universe of riding, but then I'm not striving to do more than have a pleasant hack. But I can see it as a tool for particular horses who might respond to a very deep stretch.

                    People love to bust on the top riders, but seriously- they are better than us. No matter how much I don't care for any number of riders, they all have better horse sense, better riding ability and better skills than I do and have earned their position at the top of their repective sport.

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                    • #11
                      Ugg Im so sick of "Rollkur" discussions. Will it ever end?

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                      • #12
                        I wonder when people will realize the online petitions are completely useless wastes of time that just make you "feel" warm and fuzzy for putting your name on something even though they don't accomplish anything.

                        You'd think people would get that by now.
                        "smile a lot can let us ride happy,it is good thing"

                        My CANTER blog.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by caffeinated View Post
                          I wonder when people will realize the online petitions are completely useless wastes of time that just make you "feel" warm and fuzzy for putting your name on something even though they don't accomplish anything.

                          You'd think people would get that by now.

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                          • #14
                            I think people DO GET it, which is why there wasn't more petitions by now.

                            Meanwhile, to the OP, try your announcement here. They can place it internationally, maybe get a write up in St Georg magazine, stuff like that:

                            Olympic winner Klaus Balkenhol, Kurd Albrecht von Ziegner, and Hans-Heinrich Isenbart demand a change
                            http://www.truemner.net/xenophon/frameset_e.htm

                            I think a petition coming from "the prudish americans" (SJs phrase) isn't going to have any impact on the FEI. You need the international impact behind it http://www.truemner.net/xenophon/frameset_e.htm, and St Georg magazine

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                            • #15
                              also submit the petition here http://www.walterzettl.net/pages/german_stgeorge.html

                              he's already sent one letter off to St. George and had it published... and yes, it was on a different level then the "Online" poem. Although he may be inspired and write a poem in response, who knows.

                              Sung of course to the tune of "Dueling Banjos."

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                              • #16
                                Get. A. Life.

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                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  It's just amazing how quickly the webmaster removed my subject and my profil when talking about rollkur. Not here but it's appen very often
                                  Now it's taboo

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                                  • #18
                                    you know what Jessica, I'll take care of it with those links I posted. And I'll add http://www.hsus.org for goood measure, they have many legal petitions out there. And they have people who do pro bono work, maybe will put some hours into it (although rollkur isn't a big problem in the USA yet). I always wanted to know if the FEI doesn't enforce their own rulebook, and if you participate in their dressage tests, what the legal action might be.

                                    Thanks for posting here, and have a nice day. I'll take care of it.

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                                    • Original Poster

                                      #19
                                      SM have a nice too

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                                      • #20
                                        although rollkur isn't a big problem in the USA yet).
                                        How do you know? Have you visited everyone and watched them train?

                                        Have a nice day!

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