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  • Classical vs. "quick-fix" dressage

    I wanted to bring to the attention of CoH’s members a new not-for-profit website on classical dressage, DressageRevolution.com, that will likely be of interest to many riders here. This website exposes the specific problems with the modern front-to-back and adversarial method of riding and elucidates how and why we can return to classical ideals. It uses candid photos and videos of real riders to show you exactly the differences between correct and incorrect dressage training.

    Dressage Revolution is not affiliated with any particular training program; rather, we are simply trying to help riders relearn the joy of systematically developing their horses into willing, light, athletic partners.

    If you’re interested in helping us change dressage for the better, I invite you to visit us at:

  • #2
    May I recommend adding Paul Belasik's books to the list of good classical reads. Fantastic website! It would be nice if there were a "contact us"
    chaque pas est fait ensemble


    • #3
      Seriously, to the people who created that website.....don't you have something better to do with your time? Nothing new, same videos on Anky then Klimke. Yawn.


      • #4
        I read for about a minute.

        When I got to something like (quoted about top level riders) im paraphrasing here "Where is the lightness?" I hit x.

        If the classical trainers that your using, or reading, or watching on youtube, are better at creating a lighter horse, then you bet your bottom dollar they would be a "top rider" as well.
        Last edited by NOMIOMI1; Mar. 24, 2010, 11:17 AM.
        ~~Member of the TB's Rule Clique ~~


        • #5
          Originally posted by Liz View Post
          Seriously, to the people who created that website.....don't you have something better to do with your time? Nothing new, same videos on Anky then Klimke. Yawn.


          • #6
            Haven't read much of it, one look at the "correct" photos tells me some of them are photoshopped. No thanks...


            • #7


              • #8
                As a relatively new student of dressage, I have to ask, why do these classical principles not make it into the winning rides that we see so much of? why is the "incorrect" riding winning?
                Monty & Theo http://community.webshots.com/album/...tneese?start=0



                • #9
                  why is the "incorrect" riding winning?
                  Maybe it isn't incorrect.

                  PS I'm curious. Is this the website that mbm and karoline have been working on? The "about" page gives no names or credentials for the 'expert' analysis.


                  • #10
                    I hear a train a'comin'. Brakes squealing....


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Carol O View Post
                      I hear a train a'comin'. Brakes squealing....
                      choo choo!

                      (exiting gracefully, stage left)
                      Monty & Theo http://community.webshots.com/album/...tneese?start=0



                      • #12
                        Interesting Egon. If that is so, it's a case of the blind leading the deaf.


                        • #13
                          Oh my!

                          The last photo on there is a horrible photo shop!

                          Whats the deal?
                          ~~Member of the TB's Rule Clique ~~


                          • #14
                            Just hopping on the train and then bailing out to answer the questions about why classical riders aren't in the show ring or winning in the show ring...I take regular lessons with a classical rider/trainer - and he is more interested in the "journey" and the act of training than in showing or garnering ribbons/prizes. So, he bypasses that world as a whole. Classicists seem to have a tendency to believe that the show ring is a way to achieve self-validation. Also, classical riders seem to gravitate toward the more baroque breeds that are not as popular in the ring.

                            K- bye!
                            Last edited by Reddfox; Mar. 24, 2010, 04:37 PM.


                            • #15
                              Anything on the internet makes it 'TRUE"


                              • #16
                                The problem is than many people think they are riding "classical" dressage when they are really riding front to back. That's more of the problem than people who purposely ride "incorrect" or "quick-fix" dressage.


                                • #17
                                  Reddfox, I disagree. I show, but the success I've experienced has been due to following correct training practices. No shortcuts. Yes, the journey is indeed more important than the destination. That's why I took a whole year to rehabilitate my horse. A "quick fix" would have ruined him forever.

                                  There are plenty of Baroque breeds showing, and plenty of "non-Baroque" breeds that never enter a show ring. There are plenty of so-called "classical" riders who show. They are classical because they tell us so. Must be true, right?

                                  I dislike the labels that people here are constantly trying to stick on others. There is good riding and bad riding. That's it.

                                  Labelling Steffen Peters as one of the "bad" is just dumb.
                                  Last edited by ThreeFigs; Mar. 24, 2010, 04:16 PM. Reason: to clarify!


                                  • #18
                                    If you are gonna start a "revolution", maybe you should spell check and make sure your labels match your photos.

                                    And I also wonder about the "author(s)"--if it's who I assume, looking at her blog some time ago I was underwhelmed by her training and her horse's progress....
                                    From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.


                                    • #19
                                      Can somebody PULEASE give me some quick fixes lol

                                      I show, and the "Journey" is long as hell

                                      I have a baroque type horse,and the classical trainers have tried to get their hands on him enough times for sure.

                                      But like above said, they ride like crap (paraphrasing here) lol and so I dont let them near him.

                                      He CAN stretch to the bridle, AND go in a long frame even for his breed. No upper level training in hand here ladies I want him to do the job WITHOUT using his ability to do "collection" at birth. Its not real anyway.

                                      Classical is just another word for I dont want to relearn how to REALLY ride and so therefore if I get in front of a judge my horse cant go to the bit well enough to get a decent score so I dont even try... Want to wear my cape?

                                      Sorry, but thats my experience so far
                                      ~~Member of the TB's Rule Clique ~~


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Beasmom View Post
                                        I dislike the labels that people here are constantly trying to stick on others. There is good riding and bad riding. That's it.

                                        Labelling Steffen Peters as one of the "bad" is just dumb.
                                        I agree whole-heartedly with you on these points.