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  • Who pays?

    I'm pretty sure I've seen this thread before, but a quick search didn't find it.
    I have an amateur friend who is horseless, and is currently riding my husband's horse 3x's per week. It's a win-win because she gets to ride and it keeps the horse tuned up for my husband, who just likes to tinker around. She would like to take the horse to some schooling shows, and maybe a recognized show or two next year. So who covers the costs of showing? She's doing us a favor by getting the horse out, exposing her to shows, and also adding value to her. She's also interested in taking her to off-site lessons and/or clinics. Who should cover the cost of those? Both she and the horse will definitely benefit from the instruction. I don't mind footing the bill in most cases, I'm just not sure if there's a "rule of thumb" for this situation.

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    Since your friend is an amateur I think its sort of up in the air. I would say split the costs as you are both benefitting.

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      Originally posted by sddlbrdgrl View Post
      I'm pretty sure I've seen this thread before, but a quick search didn't find it.
      I have an amateur friend who is horseless, and is currently riding my husband's horse 3x's per week. It's a win-win because she gets to ride and it keeps the horse tuned up for my husband, who just likes to tinker around. She would like to take the horse to some schooling shows, and maybe a recognized show or two next year. So who covers the costs of showing? She's doing us a favor by getting the horse out, exposing her to shows, and also adding value to her. She's also interested in taking her to off-site lessons and/or clinics. Who should cover the cost of those? Both she and the horse will definitely benefit from the instruction. I don't mind footing the bill in most cases, I'm just not sure if there's a "rule of thumb" for this situation.
      In short. She pays. You did not actively seek her out to show your horse, nor did you actively ask her to take the horse to clinics. There is no reason you should pay, well, unless you just want to. As a matter of fact, there is a base that she should pay you for using the horse.

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      • #4
        In these situations I haul the horse so I pay the fuel costs, we stay in my horse trailer (which we both clean after show), she pays class/clinic costs.

        So you are footing part of the bill, and unless you're showing then you can act as a groom for her (which is always welcomed).

        She is an amateur so if you paid for all that it MIGHT affect her ammie status...at least it's something to think about. If she was a Pro I'd expect you to pay it all, since she's not and it's a WIN-WIN for both of you then an arrangement like I stated above is still a WIN-WIN as you haul, pay for fuel and act as a groom (her win since otherwise she'd have to pay for it all), and your horse gets some (hopefully good) experience out of it.

        But you're smart to address the issues BEFORE they arise.
        Now in Kentucky

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        • #5
          You are kindly allowing your friend to ride the horse free of charge, but the horse does need to be ridden so he is safe for hubby. At this point, the relationship is symbiotic. Adding shows and clinics into the mix makes the relationship a little more difficult. If your friend is the one who wants to show and go to clinics, she should pay. If you want the horse shown and ridden in said clinics, you should pay. If it is a 50/50 thing, split the cost.
          Beth

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          • #6
            I really think this is a case by case situation. If she is capable rider and improving your horse's performance and ads value by doing well at shows or just getting your horse used to shows I think some sort of split is more appropriate. For instance if she was a pro you would be paying her to train, ride and show the horse plus footing all the costs. Very possible she is nearly as good as some of the pro riders but just doesn't have the same resources, time etc. as they do. So really in this case I would think its up to you, the ability of the rider, the progress she is making with the horse, your relationship with this person.

            However if she is a mediocre rider, the horse is a made horse and has show experience I would think that it may be completely different, sort of comes down to who benefits most.

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              I would say it's a 50/50 thing. She is a very good rider, and is definitely advancing the skill level of the horse, who is fairly green at this point. We would eventually like to breed her, several years from now, so the experience does add marketability. She is also keeping the horse good for DH. She is getting a nice horse to ride and show, free of charge, so a split does make sense to me.

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              • #8
                When I free-leased a horse I competed it and took it to clinics. The owner graciously allowed me to use her horse. I paid for all the fees associated with the events.

                Yes, I increased the value of her horse. I took to from a horse that could barely w/t/c to a horse that competed at the regional championships. However, I could not have afforded that horse so we both benefited.

                She did pay for part of the horse's board since she was at a barn she chose.
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