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  • myths of dressage

    Henri van Shaik wrote a book of this title years ago. Anyone want to muse over it or any of the things they see as 'myths' in dressage?

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    It's a myth that it's exciting!

    It's a myth that only people who are good riders do it!

    It's a myth that its for everyone!

    It's a myth that all riders can do it and be great at it!

    It's a myth that all horses can do well at it!

    It's a myth that a draft horse is ideally suited for it!

    It's a myth that dressage horses are somewhat superior to all other horses!

    It's a myth that dressage riders are superior to or know more than other riders!

    It's a myth that riding round an arena is dressage!

    It's a myth that dressage horses have to be schooled all day every day bounded by arena confines!

    It's a myth Henri Van Shaik's name is spelt that way! Or is there another one aside from Henri van Schaik??

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    Last edited by Moderator 1; Sep. 25, 2009, 12:36 PM. Reason: personal commentary

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    • #3
      LOL, is it fullmoon yet?

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      • #4
        Biggest myth I see repeated is that you can train a horse in dressage in total harmony every step of the way. I don't know where this myth has come from, it's not even classical! It seems to be a modern phenomenon and is, I think, responsible for more unhappy riders and horses than anything else.

        Gustav Steinbrecht (Das Gymnasium des Pferdes, 1935, English translation, Xenophon Press, 1995, 220) reminds his readers:
        "Even with the greatest of care and the most serious diligence, no one should dream that it would be possible to reach the goal smoothly and without obstacles. With every horse you take in training, if it appears to be the most evidently suitable riding horse, be prepared for disappointments, embarrassments, and fights; then you might possibly not lose your good humor; and that is really the most important in all of your work."

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        • #5
          it'th a mythtery

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          • #6
            If you give the right aid, the horse will offer the right response. If the response is wrong, it is always the rider's fault.

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            • #7
              Myths

              correct work can be identified by measuring the angle of the horse's nose in relation to the ground

              the reins must always feel light like silken threads

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              • #8
                Please avoid the personal commentary. If you're not interested in a thread topic, ignore it. We've removed some posts.

                Thanks,
                Mod 1

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                • #9
                  It's a myth that you can do a proper sitting trot in an all purpose or forward seat saddle.

                  It's a myth that the rider's hands are evenly positioned all the time.

                  It's a myth that the rider should squeeze with both legs at the same time.

                  It's a myth that the rider should take both arms forward such that the upper arms are not vertical with the torso.

                  It's a myth that a rider should be able to balance correctly in the saddle, even when that saddle is too small.

                  It's a myth that the rider never uses her hands. However, the problem is that she is taught only about using her hands, and not about correctly using the leverage of the stirrups along with the hand correction.

                  It is a myth that a more expressive horse is more difficult to ride. If they are, it means that they are not in balance.

                  It's a myth that you can achieve a lenthening just by "opening your hands, and allowing it to happen."

                  It's a myth that upper level riders can do not wrong.

                  It's a myth that lower level riders are incapable of seeing things the upper level riders are doing wrong.

                  It's a myst that most riders understand a "half-halt."

                  Those are the ones that come most quickly to mind, but I bet I could make this list much longer if I really tried.

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                  • #10
                    I think the biggest myth of all is that dressage means training.

                    Then people think dressage is a panacea for any training issue. There are horses who would rather be doing something else, or doing it with a different rider, and there are riders who should stay miles away from a dressage arena. It scares me when people think every dressage horse should be able to bop down a trail bridless, ride double, carry a tarp, jump a course and work a cow.

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                    • #11
                      its a myth to learn by books alone or to cut copy and paste and re write the original

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                      • #12
                        It's a myth than it can be ridden or trained correctly ever.

                        No horse no rider will ever get it right. At least according to everything I've ever seen written about dressage and all the comments from dressage folks.

                        You will never get it right. Neither will your horse. And your trainer is all wrong too. (and this applies to everyone, from casual reading lesson taker to Olympic gold medalists)
                        You jump in the saddle,
                        Hold onto the bridle!
                        Jump in the line!
                        ...Belefonte

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                        • #13
                          its a myth to beleive you dealing with one persnality - ie yourself
                          as there the horses to consider and the person whos instructing you

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                          • #14
                            It's a myth that the title of Dr. van Schaik's book is "Myths of Dressage". The book title is actually "Misconceptions and Simple Truths in Dressage".

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                            • #15
                              The book title is actually "Misconceptions and Simple Truths in Dressage".
                              Bingo. I have read that book and I knew that title posted here sounded wrong.

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                              • #16
                                Well I knew that earlier and it's why I posted what I did but seems it meant I took a ticking off from the moderator!

                                Hey ho I'll continue as always to alay misconceptions and out falsity and get to the simple truth

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                                • #17
                                  I knew you were tongue in cheek, T. I think this is a good topic. I'm not edumacated enough to know what is a myth and what ones I have encountered. Good stuff to ruminate about, actually.
                                  Airborne? Oh. Yes, he can take a joke. Once. After that, the joke's on you.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Thomas_1 View Post
                                    Well I knew that earlier and it's why I posted what I did but seems it meant I took a ticking off from the moderator!

                                    Hey ho I'll continue as always to alay misconceptions and out falsity and get to the simple truth
                                    well perhaps they never read the book so didnt know what you meant

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by stolensilver View Post
                                      Biggest myth I see repeated is that you can train a horse in dressage in total harmony every step of the way. I don't know where this myth has come from, it's not even classical! It seems to be a modern phenomenon and is, I think, responsible for more unhappy riders and horses than anything else.

                                      Gustav Steinbrecht (Das Gymnasium des Pferdes, 1935, English translation, Xenophon Press, 1995, 220) reminds his readers:
                                      "Even with the greatest of care and the most serious diligence, no one should dream that it would be possible to reach the goal smoothly and without obstacles. With every horse you take in training, if it appears to be the most evidently suitable riding horse, be prepared for disappointments, embarrassments, and fights; then you might possibly not lose your good humor; and that is really the most important in all of your work."

                                      So true! I got very frustrated until I realized this. Thanks for the quote.

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                                      • #20
                                        It's a myth that a dressage (or any) horse can be ridden 'in front of the leg'
                                        (or so it would seem..... by observing most rides) ;-)
                                        * <-- RR Certified Gold Star {) <-- RR Golden Croissant Award
                                        Training Tip of the Day: If you can’t beat your best competitor, buy his horse.
                                        NO! What was the question?

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