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  • Knowledge vs Wisdom

    What's the difference between the two in the dressage journey?

  • #2
    Wisdom is the ability to successfully apply knowledge and experience.
    Liz Steacie
    Porcupine Hill Dressage
    Maitland, Ontario



    • #3
      Knowledge hasn't achieved LDA. Wisdom is collecting social security.
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      • #4
        Grasshopper he say "The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance.”


        • #5
          Wisdom = knowledge+experience
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          • #6
            Wisdom.... add in judgment and intuition


            • #7
              Knowledge gives you the tools. Wisdom guides you the judgement to use them correctly.
              "My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." ~ Jack Layton


              • #8
                In times gone by people asked questions and laboured all their lives to find the answers.

                Now, with the internet, answers are available in seconds.

                Knowledge is reading someone else's answers. Wisdom is knowing which questions you want to find the answers for.


                • #9
                  Originally posted by stolensilver View Post
                  Knowledge is reading someone else's answers. Wisdom is knowing which questions you want to find the answers for.
                  Ohh... I like that one!

                  I like Reynard Ridge's also, though....


                  • #10
                    Interesting thread for slc to post.

                    The difference between knowledge and wisdom is brilliantly illustrated every day on the internet discussion forums.

                    We all know people who have consumed mass quantities of knowledge about dressage or anything else but do not have the wisdom to intelligently filter and apply the knowledge in a relevant manner rather than spew out data randomly whenever a key word is uttered. That person may have knowledge in spades but lacks the software to access and apply the knowledge in a useful or even wise way.

                    There are people who 'talk the talk' , have read all the "Great masters" and relay this information from on high to others but , if they are honest with themselves, they cannot apply it to their own riding.

                    Wisdom is more than knowledge plus experience. It also involves the intelligence to filter, edit and APPLY the knowledge in a relevant manner.

                    Wisdom can also involve recognizing when to say nothing.

                    Ding Dong.


                    • #11
                      "Wisdom is what you gain when youth deserts you."~ Richard Thuss
                      If you are lucky enough to ride, you are lucky enough.


                      • #12
                        Knowledge is reading all the stuff on the BB's. Wisdom is the strength to ignore most of it.
                        \"I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed.\"--Pogo


                        • #13
                          Interesting. Wisdom is also admitting that all of the knowledge you thought you had (or tried so desperately to make others think you had) isn't worth much of anything. If you don't have that wisdom, other people will quickly figure that out as well and you'll look the fool.


                          • #14
                            Knowlege is what you get when you'r young. Wisdom is what you get when you are old and wrinkly. Just kidding...


                            • #15
                              My take: Knowledge is raw information. Wisdom is the understanding of how and when to apply knowledge, with a larger overall perspective, emotional sensibility, and a sense of purpose. There is also skill, which is the ability to make it happen.

                              So for dressage:
                              - knowledge would be knowing the aids for the shoulder-in and knowing what the benefits of the exercise are, in theory
                              - wisdom would be the emotional sensibility to understand what your horse is telling you that day, the ability to feel what's going on with your horse that day physically, knowing whether the shoulder-in would help or hinder your horse's development on this particular day, having an overall purpose for the exercise and a framework into which the exercise fits, as well as the ability to know by feel how much to ask for and when to call it a day, when to take rest, when to reward, etc. I think love and empathy are big parts of wisdom.
                              - skill would be the ability to execute the shoulder-in properly.

                              I would be a much better rider if it weren't for that damn skill part...and the wisdom part...


                              • #16
                                wisdom is an art to listen ----- and expreince is to apply from that you listen from
                                to improve to encourage to gain knowledge to learn and one cant learn unless it listens or see' s, feels and touch and taste etc wisdom is being in harmony with all things in life and life itself

                                wisdom comes from knowledge but its how you apply the knowledge you have as to how expreince you are
                                and the biggest thing anyone can do be it a rider, aworker a partner etc
                                is be honest - one can not improve if ones not honest and one can not trian a horse if ones not honest with them selves to how much they actually know


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by retreadeventer View Post
                                  Wisdom = knowledge+experience
                                  oh, no There are plenty of people with knowledge and years of experience who still do things badly.


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by spotted mustang View Post
                                    oh, no There are plenty of people with knowledge and years of experience who still do things badly.
                                    then it be wise not to go there


                                    • #19
                                      Eggie, you always crack me up. I do agree with the knowledge being something you can read in a book and wisdom (specifically in dressage) is having that knowledge anchored to experience successfully training horses and students to the levels and ideas you once read about.
                                      "And I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling." - Capt Reynolds "Firefly"


                                      • #20
                                        data isn't information
                                        information isn't knowledge
                                        knowledge isn't wisdom

                                        there is a whole lot of data and information out there
                                        scant knowledge
                                        precious little wisdom

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