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Why Do I Even Bother?

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  • Why Do I Even Bother?

    I had an AWFUL day yesterday at a show. My trainer rode my horse on Saturday and I was scheduled to ride on Sunday in 2 tests.

    I got sick. Flu. I scratched my first test but my trainer encouraged me to try to ride the second test just to prove I could do it.
    I am a sucker.
    I had no strength, no balance and felt like crappola. But I rode anyway.
    My horse, however, figured out pretty fast I was a pushover so during our training level test he blew right through what pitiful canter aids I could give. So we trotted our 20 meter canter circles. The whole test.
    I was exhausted and I just know the judge was wondering WTH was that?

    Please tell me I am not alone. I feel like I should just chuck this whole dressage thing. It has been a passion for 25 years and I am wondering today if I should just take up trail riding.

  • #2
    Aw, come on, you had the FLU. I know my judgment goes all to crap when I feel miserable. Maybe the same thing happens to you. Probably you're still feeling under the weather, and it's hard to be optimistic when you feel like that.

    Your horse was just doing what horses do, taking a break because he could. If he would do the test perfectly whether or not you were aboard, then is when I'd wonder why bother. Although liberty dressage does have a certain novelty to it, but I think it would wear off after a while.

    You've learned to follow your gut at shows, and I think that's a good lesson. Personally, I don't think the purpose of a dressage show is "just to prove I can do it." I think it's to get an outside opinion on the skill level of the rider-horse team. You weren't able to present the true picture for reasons beyond your control.

    I would have hated sacrificing the entry fees, though, so I might have done the same thing for different reasons. Probably would have had the same result, too. But give yourself a break. Either you like showing and next time will be better, or if you hate it anyway, here's a good excuse to lighten up and enjoy working at home.

    Nothing wrong with trail riding, either. I'm dying to go down to the lake and swim my horse.
    Yes, I am crazy. Is that an issue?

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    • #3
      You know, I can ride badly WITHOUT the flu!!

      I can't imagine that feeling that way, you could give any good aids at all. I'm impressed you stayed on!
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      • #4
        I'm 43 years old and I'm not buying that line anymore. I know I can't do it when I'm well and certainly can't do it with the flu.

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        • #5
          Now you know what you need to work on for the next show! 100% compliance with light canter aids

          You proved that you can overcome such obstacles as the flu and still get out there, give yourself a pat on the back!

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          • #6
            Why? Because you love it. You said it was your passions for 25 years. Oh come on, you had a flu and dressage isn't easy to begin with. You did great by sticking through the test. Oh hell there were times when I could not even get a canter depart in my best physical condition. If I had a flu? I would just lay in bed groaning and moaning and send somebody else to ride my pony.

            Trail ride is fun but hey dressage is funner (when you get it right anyway). I know, it's awfully frustrating when you don't get it but you will eventually and then it is really fun. Oh don't you ever for a second think that we don't struggle. We do. And we ask the same question from time to time. But we all know that we are just complalining and bitching.

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            • #7
              Shame on your trainer for pushing (aka "encouraging") you to ride. You did yourself no favors, you did your horse no favors. You shouldn't have ridden, especially when the goal was to "just prove I could do it." You knew in your heart it was a mistake before you even entered the ring, didn't you?

              Forget about it. It never happened.

              You can ride. You know you can. You just couldn't ride on Sunday, and for a darn good reason.

              Take a week off and just groom and clean tack. Hand walk your horse in this glorious late summer weather and have a chat with him. He'll be your best counsel.

              When you feel up to it, climb back on. And focus AHEAD, not behind.

              You're not ready to give up. Not yet. If you were, you never would have started this thread.
              "My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." ~ Jack Layton

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hitchinmygetalong View Post
                Shame on your trainer for pushing (aka "encouraging") you to ride. You did yourself no favors, you did your horse no favors. You shouldn't have ridden, especially when the goal was to "just prove I could do it." You knew in your heart it was a mistake before you even entered the ring, didn't you?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hitchinmygetalong View Post
                  Shame on your trainer for pushing (aka "encouraging") you to ride. You did yourself no favors, you did your horse no favors. You shouldn't have ridden, especially when the goal was to "just prove I could do it." You knew in your heart it was a mistake before you even entered the ring, didn't you?
                  Roll your eyes if you must, Ambrey, but I agree 100% with what hitch wrote. Who in their right mind pushes someone with the flu to ride a horse, much less to show it?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SillyHorse View Post
                    Roll your eyes if you must, Ambrey, but I agree 100% with what hitch wrote. Who in their right mind pushes someone with the flu to ride a horse, much less to show it?
                    I guess the opposite of the type of people who think shame is an emotional state that would be useful to anyone in this case, or that such a post would do anything other than make the OP feel worse.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hitchinmygetalong View Post
                      Shame on your trainer for pushing (aka "encouraging") you to ride. You did yourself no favors, you did your horse no favors. You shouldn't have ridden, especially when the goal was to "just prove I could do it." You knew in your heart it was a mistake before you even entered the ring, didn't you?

                      Forget about it. It never happened.

                      You can ride. You know you can. You just couldn't ride on Sunday, and for a darn good reason.

                      Take a week off and just groom and clean tack. Hand walk your horse in this glorious late summer weather and have a chat with him. He'll be your best counsel.

                      When you feel up to it, climb back on. And focus AHEAD, not behind.

                      You're not ready to give up. Not yet. If you were, you never would have started this thread.
                      Excellent, Hitch. I might print that out for reading the next time I feel discouraged.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ambrey View Post
                        I guess the opposite of the type of people who think shame is an emotional state that would be useful to anyone in this case, or that such a post would do anything other than make the OP feel worse.
                        I see that Ambrey is trying yet again to turn someone's thread into something all about her.

                        Please don't encourage this behavior, readers. Remember who started this thread and respond to her, not to Ambrey.
                        "My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." ~ Jack Layton

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                        • #13
                          I agree with Hitch, shame on your trainer. Riding a dressage test when you're feeling strong and healthy is challenging enough. Why would he want you to attempt it when you're feeling ill? I don't think there is anything to learn training wise from this experience. Your horse would have responded completely differently had you been well, is my guess. The one important lesson is to listen to your gut instincts. I do understand wanting to make your trainer proud and buck up for them. I fell off in the schooling ring at a hunter show once. I was very shaken up about it and should have scratched, but I thought my trainer would have been disappointed in me. Needless to say, we did not do very well in our class. Sometimes you just have to believe in your little voice, as hokey as that may sound.

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                          • #14
                            Cincinnati...ignore the deliberate misinterpretation by certain members who're desperately trying to transpose their own emotional weaknesses onto you. Hitch was encouraging, not discouraging as is pointed out below.
                            You can ride...and it's darned near impossible to ride well when ill. There are plenty of people with no strength and no balance at all who don't have the flu and their horses take advantage of them also and they still ride.
                            Don't beat yourself up over this. I promise when you feel better later on you'll get a chuckle out of the situation. There aren't many horses who don't get a tad bit evil when we're not on our game due to illness, horses have sick twisted senses of humor.


                            I guess the opposite of the type of people who think shame is an emotional state that would be useful to anyone in this case, or that such a post would do anything other than make the OP feel worse.
                            Shame on your trainer for pushing (aka "encouraging") you to ride.
                            You can ride. You know you can. You just couldn't ride on Sunday, and for a darn good reason.
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                            Hold onto the bridle!
                            Jump in the line!
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                            • #15
                              OP, agreeing with hitchinmygetalong (great name, btw!) here. There will be more shows and opportunities coming your way. Concentrate on feeling better!
                              Last edited by Carolinadreamin'; Aug. 31, 2009, 11:01 PM. Reason: keeping the focus on the OP

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                              • #16
                                Cinci have been there many times, even have some of those rides on film. My issue was the mental fog of peri-menopause. Some days I could not connect my brain to my muscles to save my life ( or break 60)

                                You are OK, don't despair. Regroup and go forward.

                                Some horses are mighty clever and can figure out what they can "get away with" in the show ring. While one ride will unlike cause a blip on your horses mental map, do be prepared, next time you show, to back up a transition aid with a stronger one (a schooling moment) if he blows you off.

                                Every time you ride you teach your horse something. Thankfully, many horses ( like mine ) are slow learners
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                                • #17
                                  Think of it this way

                                  You got thru the test with out hitting the ground or being eliminated or excused

                                  So he trotted the canter circles, much better than galloping them or taking off with you

                                  And you did it and survived in a weakened state--most people wouldn't have even tried

                                  Be proud of trying and getting on even when you felt like crap
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                                  • #18
                                    "At least you tried" is not a good answer. It's the Horsecity answer. The OP rode when she knew she shouldn't and now is discouraged. Anyone can ride horribly, or at least try to.

                                    There are three days every month I can't do any training on my horses because it ends up with all of us frustrated and grumpy. I know this, and don't attempt it. I trail ride with a bareback pad and enjoy being with them. I'd rather us be happy then trying to do something I shouldn't and failing.

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                                    • #19
                                      Can I make a totally cheesy yet still helpful suggestion? Listen to the newer Miley Cyrus song "The Climb". I know it helps me when I feel like throwing in the towel.

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                                      • #20
                                        About 20 years ago, I rode in a Hunter's Pace. It was something I always wanted to do, jumping, riding through the woods, etc. We rode in teams, horses well trained, youthful, brave, in shape, etc. We completed the 3 hour event, only to be beat out by another team. Ok. winning wasn't the point. BUT.. that turned out to be the most motivating ride I ever had. The team that beat us and won that hunter pace were 4 ladies aged 75 years old! What a hoot.

                                        So for all of us who say it's time to hang it up.. we are older, heavier, not brave enough anymore, not riding as well, etc. . Suck it up.. .you are not allowed to quit until you are atleast 75 years old. Winning isn't everything.. just get out and DO IT!!
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