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how many admired old trainers were in the Hitler's Youth?

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  • how many admired old trainers were in the Hitler's Youth?

    I was just wondering. Not trying to 'out' them. I do know of several well loved charming older gentlemen trainers who were involved in the Hilter's Youth or other such organizations. I am just wondering how many are out there?

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      Come on, who thinks of this stuff.

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      • #4
        Lots of people do stupid things in their youth...
        Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.

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        • #5
          Probably all the German trainers alive then. It was pretty much mandatory.

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            Originally posted by Moll View Post
            Probably all the German trainers alive then. It was pretty much mandatory.
            haha yeah i was gonna say the same thing...it was kinda expected that you would join. doesn't really say anything about the person...just something people did back then. i don't see why it matters at all. i lived in germany and if i would have asked a question like that i would have insulted everyone within hearing distance and earned myself a reputation for being a very insensitive foreigner.
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              Wow, what an awful and insensitive topic. What connection this really has to anything that is relevant about modern dressage, I have no idea. I hope it is closed.

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                I would second closing this topic. It rather sux.
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                  I third closing the topic.

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                  • #10
                    I do know that Klaus Balkenhol and his father were involved in the police action AGAINST Hitler and worked to SAVE many jews

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                    • #11
                      If you don't like the topic, don't reply to it.

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                      • #12
                        Probably most who are of that "age." As someone else said, it was mandatory and didn't necessarily have a thing to do with personal sentiment. Even if it did have to do with that, it's been 60 years--people change. Not to mention it's total lack of relevance to skill.

                        I'm a Jew, and I wouldn't have any problem riding with one of "those trainers." What people did 60 year ago as frightened teens is unlikely to have any bearing on how they currently live their lives and teach their students.
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                          Since George Theodorescue is Romanian and fled from the nazi's you can put him on the list of not involved.
                          Ditto Lark b.... as a jew I have never had any problem riding with any of the german master that have come here. I am happy for their knowledge and never have thought about where they were during the war. Down deep inside I guess I already accept that may be a part of their past and I forgive them for anything they did under the circumstances. It is not like there was a choice to be involved. Do or die. I guess I have compassion for their circumstance as well as my family who were in concentration camps.
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                            thank you Erin. I did try to delete it immediately after pushing send. I have no idea why I was thinking about this lately. If wondering about something is a crime, slap the cuffs on.

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                              Why shouldn't we think about the past? It may not be relevant to their ability to ride, but it might be relevant to a person's decision to ride with them.

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                                I actually think it is an interesting question. I agree what someone did in thier youth is not a direct correlation with the person they are today...but it does give you pause. I would certianly hope people would not want to forget or push under the rug the horrible things that occured in Nazi Germany. But it is thankfully not the Germany of today. When I went to Germany for the first time I had a very hard time imagining that it could have occured in such a beautiful place with such warm people. But it was a somewhat chilling realization that it did.
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                                  Originally posted by andy View Post
                                  I do know that Klaus Balkenhol and his father were involved in the police action AGAINST Hitler and worked to SAVE many jews
                                  As Klaus was born in 1939, what a precocious little lad he was.

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                                    Originally posted by hluing View Post
                                    I actually think it is an interesting question. I agree what someone did in thier youth is not a direct correlation with the person they are today...but it does give you pause. I would certianly hope people would not want to forget or push under the rug the horrible things that occured in Nazi Germany. But it is thankfully not the Germany of today.
                                    I agree with you completely. The reason I thought the thread should be closed is because of the likelyhood of this topic turning into a major flame-o-thon (we've seen it happen with much more mundane subjects). It is a sensitive topic, at least for me, and I'm sure for many others who participate in this forum. What happened in that time in history should NEVER be forgotten nor swept under the rug.

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                                      Let's start a topic, with "all those Dressage Riders with holes in their Butts....raise their hands!
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                                        Originally posted by Posting Trot View Post
                                        Why shouldn't we think about the past? It may not be relevant to their ability to ride, but it might be relevant to a person's decision to ride with them.

                                        I'm a historian; the past is real for me.
                                        Interesting point. We visited Tokyo Disney Land when we lived in Japan... they have a "ride" that covers the entire history of Japan from its very volcanic creation to modern day... well almost the entire history, they conviniently left out their involvement in WWII by blacking out the screen and saying that "Japan endured a ~dark` period..." . Putting your head in the sand and pretending certain events did not happen because they make you feel uncomfortable is not a way to learn from past mistakes.
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