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  • speaking of Lingh?

    What kind of daddy is he? Ammy friendly babies or pro rides?
    Thanks

  • #2
    you might also want to post this in the sport horse breeding discussion forum

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    • #3
      I can only inform you about Lingh himself and his approved son Beau.

      They are both wonderfull horses, with a very good mind and attitude.

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      • #4
        funny story, about Lingh babies

        I have been told that the foals of Lingh are really easy to handle...so I kept hearing great stories and since my experience is quite slim with foals...I said to someone....aren't all babies easy and fun to handle. I had to pick the person off the floor she laughed so hard. She made it quite clear that all foals are not born alike. So, to answer your question, I have been told by many foal owners that their Lingh babies are very easy to handle by all their family members. As they grow up, the same positive comments on riding/breaking them. They are amateur friendly. If you wish to talk with some owners I can help you contact them. I am always interested in stories about his offspring and try to get them onto the website under New News. Let me know, Karin Offield, Lingh's mom(sort of).
        Karin Offield
        info@offieldfarms.com
        www.offieldfarms.com
        "Don't give up on anything that matters !"

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        • #5
          I have a lovely Lingh yearling filly (if I do say so myself) and I can attest to the fact Lingh obviously is prepotent for a good disposition. This filly's dam is a good mare, but not as quiet as her filly seems to be. This filly (her name is "Lotza Lingh" and we call her Lucy) does not get handled that often, but when I go out to get her out of the field, she is very easy to catch (as a matter of fact she always comes to greet anyone who enters the pasture) and leads like a champ even though I don't do it that often. She ties and loves to be groomed. She is great for her vaccinations, the farrier, etc. I don't work with her that often, just letting her live outside and be a horse. She seems to be a quick learner.

          And, Karin..its true..they are NOT ALL that easy! haha I hope this is a sign as to how she will be under saddle.

          I am VERY impressed with her attitude! She is drop dead gorgeous as well.

          I'm a big Lingh fan.

          Jennifer

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          • #6
            I had a friend who goes every year to see the VDL stallion show (or whatever it's called), and he had quite a different story. Apparently, he asked about his foals, and several breeders told him Lingh's babies are no good and are nothing like him. There were even some not so nice things said about them being good candidates for the canners.

            BUT, 90% of people aren't trying to get Lingh reincarnate when they breed their mares like these breeders are, so take it with a grain of salt.

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            • #7
              Virginia Tech had a lovely Lingh colt - a 2008 model, I believe. I am sure they would not mind answering questions about him.
              Roseknoll Sporthorses
              www.roseknoll.net

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                #8
                thanks guys, ? for you Karin O

                what registries are his babies accepted to? I did not see that on his website. Thanks, I love him.

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                • #9
                  Lingh's registries

                  I apologize...I will get the info up on the site asap..... Born Dutch, So KWPN - NA also approved Hanoverian - AHS and HOV, Oldenburg, Swedish ( SWANA & ASVH) and Finnish.

                  Have you seen his new video on You Tube ? Click on Amazing Lingh, hope you like it, it's cool. Take care, Karin
                  Karin Offield
                  info@offieldfarms.com
                  www.offieldfarms.com
                  "Don't give up on anything that matters !"

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                    #10
                    I did see the video

                    That is what prompted me to ask the question about Lingh. I loved him, of course, and I loved the music but because I was paying complete attention the the horse I found the background a bit distracting, but to each..... his own. Of course it could have been my medieval-movie-loving husband that kept saying in the background, "find out what that movie is, find out what that movie is" that was the distracting part!! Husbands.

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                    • #11
                      several breeders told him Lingh's babies are no good and are nothing like him. There were even some not so nice things said about them being good candidates for the canners.
                      and were they selling foals from other stallions maybe?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by egontoast View Post
                        and were they selling foals from other stallions maybe?
                        I don't think so, it was some kind of stallion show/exhibition/whatever, not an auction.

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                        • #13
                          Slightly OT, but it bothers me that many people, even breeders, seem to conveniently forget that all horses have a mother. In pedigrees you even often see the damsire rather than the dam! If you breed 50% stellar to 50% crap, you are not going to get 100% stellar.

                          And since the importance of the contribution of mitochondrial DNA is still debatable, some might argue the mare is MORE influential in the final product than the sire...

                          Carry on...
                          From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pony Fixer View Post
                            Slightly OT, but it bothers me that many people, even breeders, seem to conveniently forget that all horses have a mother. In pedigrees you even often see the damsire rather than the dam! If you breed 50% stellar to 50% crap, you are not going to get 100% stellar.

                            And since the importance of the contribution of mitochondrial DNA is still debatable, some might argue the mare is MORE influential in the final product than the sire...

                            Carry on...
                            No offense, but I hear this argument mostly from breeders who's stallions have crappy babies. I can't remember how many times I've heard a breeder say "Well, the mother wasn't that great". At some point, you've got to wonder if all the mares were bad, or if it's just him.

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                            • #15
                              I don't have a dog in this fight, as I have not bred, don't intend to breed, etc. I have put quite a bit of semen into mares (good and bad on both ends), though, and have a degree in a genetic field (Immunology, but the research was mostly diabetes related genetics).

                              Can a really nice stallion not be prepotent enough to pass any quality to the offspring?--maybe. But more likely it's just that the genetics of temperament, gaits, rideability, etc. are complicated! (duh!). And the stallion ONLY brings 50% to the table.

                              So to ask a question like "Are Lingh babies Ammy friendly?" should garner a "maybe, depending on the mare."
                              From now on, ponyfixer, i'll include foot note references.

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                              • #16
                                We have two Lingh yearlings and adore them. The colt, Landmark VT, is out of an imported KWPN mare and did very well in-hand as a foal, with scores up to 85.6 and a win at DAD. He has a super character, and despite still being intact, is very easy to handle. He is a ham and likes to showoff but is inherently very laid back.

                                The gelding, Last Call VT, is out of a domestic TB. He is a hunter mover (this was the breeding goal for him) with long, elegant lines. He is a bit more sensitive than Landmark but has a great workmanlike manner and is also very good to handle.

                                I only have experience with these two Lingh youngsters but believe either would certainly be suitable for an amateur rider. They are both favorites amongst our students!
                                Equine Science at Virginia Tech
                                Virginia Tech MARE Center
                                www.arec.vaes.vt.edu/middleburg

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Coppers mom View Post
                                  I had a friend who goes every year to see the VDL stallion show (or whatever it's called), and he had quite a different story. Apparently, he asked about his foals, and several breeders told him Lingh's babies are no good and are nothing like him. There were even some not so nice things said about them being good candidates for the canners.

                                  BUT, 90% of people aren't trying to get Lingh reincarnate when they breed their mares like these breeders are, so take it with a grain of salt.
                                  I don't have a friend who goes every year to the VDL stalion show. I don't need one because I am there myself every year. I have heard this b*llshit from every stallion year after year (Contango, Ferro, Jazz just to name a few). Sour grapes all over this show and many other shows as well.

                                  This is a multi million dollar business. And believe me people get a strange behaviour when money is involved.

                                  Just like you

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Going4Gold View Post
                                    I don't have a friend who goes every year to the VDL stalion show. I don't need one because I am there myself every year. I have heard this b*llshit from every stallion year after year (Contango, Ferro, Jazz just to name a few). Sour grapes all over this show and many other shows as well.
                                    That's odd, because he asked about nearly every stallion there, and none of them got such a negative response across the board. I mean, sure, everyone's stallion is better than everyone elses (), but Lingh was pretty much disliked by every breeder he asked.

                                    But, like I said, I think those guys have very different breeding goals than the average ammie.



                                    Originally posted by Going4Gold View Post
                                    Just like you
                                    And what in the world is that supposed to mean?

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                                    • #19
                                      Coopers Mom ....Rude ? ? ?

                                      I am floored by your posts. The OP was searching for quality's and characteristics from those who have LINGH offspring not from people who have not had the oprritunity to have (or work ) with one ! ! I however am one of the more fortunate people I have a GREAT colt (DarLingh-LINGH X NATHALIA X COCKTAIL) who along with D.A.D.'08 winner Landmark VT helped LINGH get a terrific 5th ( by less than 1%) in the Get of Sire last year at DAD beating great stallions like Rousseau ! As for LINGH, you know crap about him lady. He has an impeccable pedigree was/is a phenomenol show horse and holds the highest of standards with more Stud Books than I've ever seen a stallion accomplish. And geuss what , I LOVED my easy to handle, exceptional colt so much I bred my Cocktail mare to him AGAIN.

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                                      • #20
                                        I think perhaps people who actually have seen the stallion, know the stallion, and have even ridden the stallion, as well as those who have seen his offspring and perhaps handle them on a daily basis are in a better position to respond to inquiries about that stallion as a breeding animal. It is more than rude to spread third-hand nasty gossip, which by the way is 180% contrary to anything I have seen with my own eyes or heard about this horse.

                                        He is gorgeous and his foals are gorgeous.

                                        But, like I said, I think those guys have very different breeding goals than the average ammie.
                                        This comment is just bizarre. If anything, I seriously doubt the "average ammie" would even think to breed to Lingh, and not due to any shortcoming he has. He is most likely to attract people trying to produce a world class horse, imo. I would love to have one of his youngsters and I am very, very picky. They must be pretty memorable because off the top of my head I was able to mention that VT has a colt by him that I saw once a year ago, and I see hundreds, if not thousands, of foals per year, in person and on videos.

                                        And if anyone is interested in finding out more about Lingh, the GREAT thing about the KWPN is that the registry tracks and maintains very helpful records on all of their breeding stallions, so you can read about the stallion's performance scores and the stallion's foal report.

                                        As for mares being unfairly blamed, I say BS in most cases. The fact of the matter is in many, many cases that people expect the stallion to fix everything, and blame the stallion when the foal is not 100% perfect, despite the fact there is not one thing about the mare's pedigree or qualities as an individual that would indicate she would be a good producer.

                                        Easy Rider - do you have any pics to post of your colt? I *love* Cocktail as well and would love to see your boy.
                                        Roseknoll Sporthorses
                                        www.roseknoll.net

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