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  • where would you live?

    lets say that you are a very serious amateur. You have 2 horses both with GP potential and you have the flexibility to move and find employment anywhere in the US. You ride your own horses and are looking for training and the opportunity to compete within easy traveling distance from your home base

    Where would you go? who would you train with?

    I think the obvious answer is Wellington and there are 2 jobs available in west palm beech, but I don't think I want to live in FL year round. Also FL has a very unusual health care system. It is one of 2 states that does not require MD's to carry malpractice insurance - so many MD's buy there own (50k a year in my case) or do without.

    So any ideas besides Florida?

  • #2
    Southern California

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    • #3
      Are you adopting people? :-)

      I would find a trainer first and then move to wherever he/she is. Some of my favorite trainers don't live in any big metropolitan cities so it is difficult to say "Oh yes move to Wellington or San Diego, etc."
      Most friendships in the horse world are just an opinion away from doom.

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      • #4
        So-Cal or even Central California. The big question - who do you want to train with? Then move close to them So Cal gives you so many options. Nor Cal also has quite a few options, but if $ were unlimited, I'd head to Santa Barbara - easy enough drive to spend weekends with some top trainers.
        www.MysticOakRanch.com Friesian/Warmblood Crosses, the Ultimate Sporthorse
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        • #5
          Southern CA, hands down, specifically SD. PM me if you want to know more.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dune View Post
            Southern CA, hands down, specifically SD.
            Ditto San Diego and Southern California. This is where the big guns are. Inland is hot, but coastline is a dream! The weather is milder than Florida. But Florida will be the natural 2nd choice, since they also have amazing Trainers.

            If you are serious about multiple GP horses, I would look for a trainer who proven to train up and sustain multiple GP horses as well (at US or International Levels?) While there are many trainers who got their Gold Medal on 1 GP horse (...but may be trained by somebody else or were just blessed with an easy packer?) the ones who trained 100+ GP horses can bring so much more experience to the table and troubleshoot various issues.

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            • #7
              San Diego, where I live. There are so many training options here. From very big names to lesser known but also very good. Plus you absolutely can not beat the weather.

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              • #8
                What is your medical specialty?
                In Massachusetts we have top notch hospitals and
                medical care. In addition, you can find many trainers
                here (even a few that don't go to Florida for the winter)
                Dot
                www.settlementfarm.us

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                  #9
                  I'm OB/GYN.

                  After reading the recent threads about the layoffs in the law industry, I am so greatful for the stability of my career.

                  I just started a job in Massachusetts this month and things are working out well for me and the horses.

                  I have a 2 year contract - but could easily break it after one year, So I'm thinking of long term plan

                  So I think I will check out California. The obvious choices are Gunter Seidel and Steffan Peters, but are they taking students? Boarding for 2 horses? Other ideas?

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                  • #10
                    So I think I will check out California. The obvious choices are Gunter Seidel and Steffan Peters, but are they taking students? Boarding for 2 horses?
                    I don't know about GS but not too long ago I saw an ad for Arroyo Del Mar (Steffen Peters' place) for openings in their barn. Last I heard, board runs around $1000 a month. Training a bit more.

                    Here's a link to the CDS San Diego's trainers list:

                    http://www.sandiegodressage.com/trainerdirectory.html

                    His website is listed there. He has a lovely facility, just beautiful. I'm next door at a much cheaper place. Wave to me from your covered if you move there.

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                    • #11
                      If you don't want to go to California, there are also a lot of excellent dressage trainers around the Annapolis MD area, and its just a hop to Devon, and some great university medical facilities (John Hopkins, Georgetown, GW). Land is still available, winters aren't horribly severe, cost of living is highter than FL but lower than CA. And we don't have earthquakes or wildfires.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by caddym View Post
                        lets say that you are a very serious amateur. You have 2 horses both with GP potential and you have the flexibility to move and find employment anywhere in the US. You ride your own horses and are looking for training and the opportunity to compete within easy traveling distance from your home base

                        Where would you go? who would you train with?

                        I think the obvious answer is Wellington and there are 2 jobs available in west palm beech, but I don't think I want to live in FL year round. Also FL has a very unusual health care system. It is one of 2 states that does not require MD's to carry malpractice insurance - so many MD's buy there own (50k a year in my case) or do without.

                        So any ideas besides Florida?
                        50k a year for malpractice insurance?

                        My dad was an OBGN in New York and I think he finally had to retire at age 79 when the malpractice insurance went up to a quarter of a million dollars a year.


                        As for places to live, you really only need one trainer that you click with and access to shows.

                        NJ and NY have some lovely trainers, and unlike California, there is much better opportunity for turn out for the horses.

                        Virginia is less expensive and has a lot of shows to go to.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tallac View Post
                          Southern California
                          Or South Carolina

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                          • #14
                            As I am in the middle of the exact same process (serious ammy with one baby GP horse and a very good pospect) I would definitely recommend finding a trainer FIRST then planning the move.

                            I, too, bless my job stability at times like this - I'm an ER RN and can get work anywhere. The harder part was relocating the husband and two kids just so I could follow my dream!!

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                            • #15
                              Maryland is a good state. There are some good trainers. You are within driving distance to Devon, Morven Park and other big events.

                              I live in the boonie part of MD but up near Annapolis there are nicer barns. John Hopkins is a really nice hospital and has a great OB/GYN department.
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                              • #16
                                How about Modesto
                                Dawn

                                Patience and Consistency are Your Friends

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by rizzodm View Post
                                  How about Modesto
                                  If you move to Modesto with your FEI horses, we WILL give you honorary membership in the WTF registry too
                                  www.MysticOakRanch.com Friesian/Warmblood Crosses, the Ultimate Sporthorse
                                  Director, WTF Registry

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by FriesianX View Post
                                    If you move to Modesto with your FEI horses, we WILL give you honorary membership in the WTF registry too
                                    What kind of Warmblood WTF registry is?

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                                    • #19
                                      I have lived in Southern California (Rancho Santa Fe, near San Diego), the Northeast, Southeast, and currently live in Virginia. I would recommend the San Diego area first for your specific goals. Virginia is extremely horsey, and a super place to have a farm, but does not have the breadth and depth of upper level dressage training available. There are some very good trainers here, but I think at GP level you would have more opportunities in S.D. If you were an upper level eventer my advice would be different. Plus, S.D. is gorgeous and you cannot beat the weather.

                                      I would not pick Wellington because I think it is too seasonal (I have a home there and have shown there many times during WEF).
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                                      • #20
                                        I think the real question (or questions) are - who do you want to train with, and what kind of budget do you have? San Diego is EXPENSIVE but beautiful (all year around), but if you drive a ways out any direction, not so beautiful anymore (lots of high desert and rocks). Moorpark is perhaps a bit less expensive, different training opportunities, not quite as beautiful. Santa Barbara is beautiful and again, expensive. Are you planning on buying a house, or renting? Do you mind driving a ways to get to training (and driving in heavy traffic)? What about picking up and moving to Germany for a year or two

                                        I agree, YL makes a good point, Wellington is seasonal, So-Cal is year round. NorCal is seasonal and less opportunities, although still more going on in the dressage scene than most of the US. Central CA coast is close to much of So-Cal and has a few top trainers (Charlotte Bredahl is the biggest name, I can think of off the top of my head), and is gorgeous.

                                        If I had such an opportunity (hahahahaha), I'd probably fly out for a few weeks, schedule lessons with a few of the trainers you are interested in, see what works... Maybe visit a hospital or two and see if they appeal to you as a place to work
                                        www.MysticOakRanch.com Friesian/Warmblood Crosses, the Ultimate Sporthorse
                                        Director, WTF Registry

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