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Aunt Esther on Non-Warmbloods in Dressage

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  • Aunt Esther on Non-Warmbloods in Dressage

    Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, is reminded by the thread started by Trixie's Mom that there is, sadly, a large number of ghastly snobs and bitches in the dressage world, who turn their noses up at the Non-Warmblood Dressage Horse.

    Aunt Esther would like to remind these people that nowhere in any rule book does it say "Dressage Horses Must Be Warmbloods." Nowhere.

    Aunt Esther looks forward to hearing about fellow BB members with breeds other that Warmbloods who are enjoying dressage. And hopes that they will include photos.

  • #2
    Ah man, people would sure give me odd looks when I showed up at clinics on my appeeloosa...
    Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

    Proud Closet Canterer! Member Riders with Fibromyalgia clique.


    • #3
      How about purchasing a horse advertised as half dutch/half TB only to get the papers from at that time AHSA and under breed, says "PINTO"

      Hey, as long as they get the job done, make the owner smile, thats all that matters!


      • #4
        hee hee summerhorse, my trainer has an appy/tb cross who's an awesome mover (came out of the neighbor's pasture). When we show up at dressage shows (I have an arab), people must wear themselves out sneering! HAHA!!

        I'll refrain from posting pics since I've posted so many of her already.
        Jennifer Walker
        Proud owner of Capt Han Solo+, Arabian stallion http://www.capthansolo.com
        Author, freelance writer http://www.authorjennwalker.com


        • #5
          Aunt Esther...this is a topic near and dear to my heart.

          I breed a little known breed called Colonial Spanish Horses...more simply put they are Spanish Barbs...and I show my young stallion in dressage. He's only 5 this year and still showing training level but I have never had so much fun working with a horse.

          Here are some recent pics for you:



          Please forgive my ghastly mistake of having both brown and black tack in these pics. I was test riding the saddle and thought it was forgivable since it was just a schooling show and I'm an ex eventer as well.

          Thanks for using your impressive influence to educate people as to other less known breeds for dressage.


          • #6
            DB he's adorable!
            Jennifer Walker
            Proud owner of Capt Han Solo+, Arabian stallion http://www.capthansolo.com
            Author, freelance writer http://www.authorjennwalker.com


            • #7
              Aunt Esther, I love you. Many, many, many years ago I did PSG on an older Appy mare. She had three tail hairs, looked somewhat like a bulldog QH, was 15.3hh and was one of the nicest horses I have ever ridden. Amazing mover. I get all warm and fuzzy remembering her. She lived to 37, and spent her final years at a therapeutic riding school.

              Edited to say I was reeeeeeeeeeeally thin back then and therefore it did not look like a solar eclipse when I sat on her.


              • #8
                Ah yes, no prejudice at all from the judges, but maybe just a little frisson from some other competitors when we score ahead of them...


                I think you've all seen my pics to an embarrassing degree...


                • #9
                  I show my 15.1hh Andalusian stallion with pride! We showed Training level during the spring, but he had been sitting in someone's pasture for several years until last September, so he's made amazing progress. This fall we will do a recognized show or two at TL and a few schooling shows at 1st. He is fabulous, and I couldn't care less what people think about him not being a warmblood! We qualified for IALHA Nationals at TL (not terribly hard to do, but I'm still proud), and if I get enough participants in my braiding clinic to raise the money, we will be there grinning from ear to ear!

                  I don't have any pics on my work computer of me riding him, but here he is with my friend on board:




                  • #10
                    Dear Aunt Esther,
                    I will probably qualify under the "snobs and bitches" category as I am a firm believer that warmbloods are the best breed for dressage. However, being a poor person and a recreational breeder I aspire to compete (and win) against the pros on the cheapest horse I can possibly find. Therefor I can certainly understand peoples wishes to "bring it on" with other breeds and incourage them to do it.

                    Can I enquire as to what breed you ride?


                    • #11
                      twist my arm....

                      well, since Aunt Esther asked....I'll force myself to post a picture or two...
                      I do hope that my black pad will be overlooked, as will the fact that my wither relief pad is NOT the same color as my pad. Oh heck....there are so many things about ME that I'd like you to overlook, just ignore me and look at the pretty pony....

                      This is my (insert loving adjective) mare, Katie -- an 18 yr old Appendix QH.
                      She's 3/4 QH and 1/4 TB, with Jet Deck and War Admiral in her not too distant past. Not that matters to me -- her great spirit and attitude are all I really care about!

                      MeredithTX -- he's GORGEOUS!
                      Does he want to meet my mare?!?



                      • #12
                        slpederson, she's just lovely!


                        • #13
                          Splenders, he would LOVE to meet your mare. He's a big fan of the ladies. She's a very pretty girl too. One of my favorite horses I've ever ridden was a gray Appendix mare.


                          • Original Poster

                            Aunt Esther loves the photos!

                            Originally posted by slpeders
                            well, since Aunt Esther asked....I'll force myself to post a picture or two...
                            I do hope that my black pad will be overlooked, as will the fact that my wither relief pad is NOT the same color as my pad. Oh heck....there are so many things about ME that I'd like you to overlook, just ignore me and look at the pretty pony....

                            This is my (insert loving adjective) mare, Katie -- an 18 yr old Appendix QH.
                            She's 3/4 QH and 1/4 TB, with Jet Deck and War Admiral in her not too distant past. Not that matters to me -- her great spirit and attitude are all I really care about!

                            MeredithTX -- he's GORGEOUS!
                            Does he want to meet my mare?!?

                            Aunt Esther, national and international Purse Champion, loves all the photos. And Aunt Esther, while a stickler for tradition, does agree that the black pad looks lovely on your beautiful mare.

                            Aunt Esther has many horses. She has warmbloods, which she loves. She has Thoroughbreds, which deep down will always be her favorite. Aunt Esther's favorite foxhunters are two Appendix geldings. And Aunt Esther loves ponies. And Norwegian Fjords. And Appaloosas. And very loud paints. And Anglo Arabs.

                            Aunt Esther is not a huge fan of purebred Arabians, but can appreciate what it is they have to offer.

                            Aunt Esther would dearly love to learn cutting, as it will also involve another horse buying expedition, but is having a hard time coming to terms with fringed chaps. She feels the same yen for properly learning to drive a four-in-hand team, and quivers with anticipation at not only that particular horse buying expedition, but of course purchasing all the necessary tack and clothing.

                            Aunt Esther once was given the opportunity to ride a large five gaited Saddlebred, and when she was racking it gave her an incredible frisson. Aunt Esther, however, is not interested in showing gaited horses, as she would have to wear too much make-up.


                            • #15
                              hmmmm....suppose 18 is late to become a first-time mommy?
                              Something to consider! She does seem to like the Andy boys....she broke down her stallguard at our horse expo one year to strut down the aisle of
                              Andy stallions -- there was one she didn't like, but two that she put on her "pretty face" for every time they went by.

                              And Aunt Esther -- I am so pleased you can tolerate the pad! I also share your desire to learn to drive. I had a chance to drive a pair of Belgian mares with a big wagon and can only IMAGINE how much fun driving a 4-in-hand might be!! (giddy at the mere thought...)


                              • #16
                                Dear Aunt Esther-
                                Here is a picture of a breed that has been forgotten about in dressage. This is my Akhal Teke/ TB cross Dang and myself at our most recent horse trials.



                                and for good measure- one of him jumping- because thats where we truly shine


                                I am sure that you are familiar with the Akhal Teke horse Absent. I know that at one point he held the record for medal wins in dressage at the Olympics.

                                Please forgive the black gloves- but I am an eventer so I sort of have an excuse
                                It is not enough for a man to know how to ride; he must know how to fall.


                                • #17
                                  And very loud paints.
                                  Well, since you asked and all, here you go.
                                  Ahhhh, spring is here. The birds are singing, the trees are budding and the paddocks are making their annual transformation from cake mix to cookie dough.


                                  • #18
                                    When going on the buying expidition Esther.....the "Old Canadian Starz" recomends scallops on your chaps, as fringes went out of vogue many moons ago. ( They give the Judge too much insite into how rough your horse is, and if you bounce in the saddle.) "Fringe is for Belly Dancing after hours.

                                    Also something which really "grinds my gears".... ...What is your opinion and the ruling on Artificial Appliances.....such as False Tails in Dressage? ( I have seen MANY-MANY answers....Please help me out on this one if you would please.
                                    Proudly Standing Imported Dutch Warmblood Stallion Pacific Star STV, Approved for Breeding with Canadian Warmblood, and Canadian Sporthorse.


                                    • #19
                                      A woman who has truly inspired me lives in the southwest MO area, and she trained a QH (I think he did WP and trails beforehand, and may even have worked cattle) to Prix St Georges. She often does not get the scores she deserves, since his natural movement, of course, is different from that of the warmbloods against which she competes. But to me, she exemplifies what is meant by dressage - training. The horse is a sweetheart, she is a sweetheart, they make a terrific pair.

                                      I am actually amazed to realize that Aunt Esther and I do have something in common - a love of TBs.

                                      And here is a picture of my lovely boy:

                                      a 501(c)3 organization helping 501(c)3 equine rescues


                                      • #20
                                        I have to chime in on my purebred arabian. We show USDF shows and breed shows. My horse has earned me two rider awards from the USDF, two rider awards from the AHA, his Legion of Honor from the AHA, a Certification of Performance from the USDF and two East Coast Championships. My horse has scored in the 70's at training level and first level. We are currently working on second level and hope to show second in 2007.
                                        I wish I knew how to post photo links as I have some really nice pictures of him.