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Anky and Salinero are not coming to Las Vegas **UPDATE** All European horses arrived

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  • #201
    And I am looking forward to seeing Anky ride Painted Black. But the World Cup is of interest right now and chatting about it is fun...so...on we go.

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    • #202
      "Oh sweet Jesus, she's going, she's showing PB, she's not showing Sallie, move on will ya? She was already going and showing PB before the thread was bumped up so someone could add more whine."

      I thought that was basically what everyone was on bb's for, so I'm not really surprised it happens.

      "one person's opinion"

      everyone has different experience and different opinion, even different information they're working with. people aren't going to see things the same, and a lot of people actually change their minds when they get new information.

      I think there is a lot of negotiating, manouvering and such that goes on behind the scenes in all big time sport events.

      I actually am not really all that concerned about it.

      I don't really care all that much about it. I like to watch the competition. I figure there's always a lot going on behnd the scenes, a lot of which I will never know about or understand, and I'm not that bugged by it. It's a big powerful organization and a lot of money, ego and careers are involved. I expect some intrigue.

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      • #203
        .

        I actually am not really all that concerned about it.

        I don't really care all that much about it. I like to watch the competition. I figure there's always a lot going on behnd the scenes, a lot of which I will never know about or understand, and I'm not that bugged by it.
        So why do you think it bothers you so much because clearly methinks she doth protetht too much and so on ?

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        • #204
          OMG, this is not a sport or an exhibition, it is a soap opera.

          A few thoughts:

          Like every other competitor, follow the rules, take the horse you qualified on or don't go.
          Stop whining.
          Stop crying foul.

          I thank the FEI for once following the guidelines they set in place and not changing them midstream as they have done in the recent past (drop scores). They are restoring my faith in what has appeared to be a politically dysfunctional organization.

          A few words come to mind in regards to this controversial situation:
          Entitlement
          Privilege
          Poor sportsmanship

          If you don't want to follow the established rules, don't make them.

          Grow up - Count your blessings.

          I agree with Theo- I believe we have several US riders not only knocking on the door, but soon to be kicking it down. Until then, I am staying home and spending my hard earned dollars on my trainer.

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          • #205
            Originally posted by sm View Post
            Then qualify him.

            Do not whine when you purposely do not choose or qualify him and decide to take another horse. Decide instead to show Painted Black in his best posible light and go out there looking for PBs best test ever. People can do the math and see which horse has won the most medals, it's not exactly a mystery to the audience.
            There seem to be quite a few of you who did not read ANY of the accounts! She had Salinero entered for two qualifiers, but had to scratch the first one because she was under a doctor's treatment for her back. FACT!
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            • #206
              Originally posted by MEP View Post
              There seem to be quite a few of you who did not read ANY of the accounts! She had Salinero entered for two qualifiers, but had to scratch the first one because she was under a doctor's treatment for her back. FACT!
              FACT- she didn't qualify with Salinero! move on
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              • #207
                "FACT" is also that people take horses to competitions for different reasons and rules change and big competitors are a big draw, and what's best for the organization is usually what happens, and it's not always that a rider has some big issue.

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                • #208
                  With all these facts whirling about its good to note...any press is better than no press and quite a few are reading and posting about Anky here. Just why is that?

                  Bring on the World Cup.

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                  • #209
                    Originally posted by Hazelnut View Post
                    With all these facts whirling about its good to note...any press is better than no press and quite a few are reading and posting about Anky here. Just why is that?

                    Bring on the World Cup.

                    Some are talking about Anky because they are amazed at her so called poor attitude and some think because she is Anky she should be able to do whatever she wants... I think she should abide by the rules and they should not change just to fit a situation. You don't have sport if you don't have rules...FACT

                    Some how I don't think there will be thousands of tickets available if Anky doesn't go.
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Hazelnut View Post
                      With all these facts whirling about its good to note...any press is better than no press and quite a few are reading and posting about Anky here. Just why is that?

                      Bring on the World Cup.
                      Because reading is not a very common habbit on this forum

                      I can also remember that a poster called Ridgeback wanted the USEF rules to be bended for Catherine Haddad and now is screaming from the roofs that "rules shouldn't be bended for anyone"

                      Happy Eastern

                      Theo

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                      • #211
                        Originally posted by MEP View Post
                        There seem to be quite a few of you who did not read ANY of the accounts! She had Salinero entered for two qualifiers, but had to scratch the first one because she was under a doctor's treatment for her back. FACT!
                        How does this make her different than countless other riders that did not qualify for something because they had to pull their horse due to personal injury or injury of the horse?

                        It must be frustrating that she had to pull out due to personal injury, but that does not entitle her to special treatment. The Wildcard was designed to add someone to the World Cup list that would help move the sport along. I do not feel that a reigning champion would move the sport along, but an up and coming rider and horse pair would do a much better job. Hence, she should not get the wildcard she mentioned.

                        She should test her true training/riding skills and go with the new horse. What is she going to do when Salinero gets older? Is she ever going to retire him or try to keep campaigning him because she wants to do everything she can to guarantee a win instead of continuing to test her skills?

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                          #212
                          Originally posted by Ajierene View Post
                          How does this make her different than countless other riders that did not qualify for something because they had to pull their horse due to personal injury or injury of the horse?

                          It must be frustrating that she had to pull out due to personal injury, but that does not entitle her to special treatment. The Wildcard was designed to add someone to the World Cup list that would help move the sport along. I do not feel that a reigning champion would move the sport along, but an up and coming rider and horse pair would do a much better job. Hence, she should not get the wildcard she mentioned.

                          She should test her true training/riding skills and go with the new horse. What is she going to do when Salinero gets older? Is she ever going to retire him or try to keep campaigning him because she wants to do everything she can to guarantee a win instead of continuing to test her skills?
                          Meoooow, meooow, meoow,

                          En de boer hij ploegde voort

                          It's obvious that the so called "around the BBQ riders" have taking over this board.

                          What does she has to proof after 3 Olympic Gold Medals and 9 WorldCup wins. Her riding skills ?, her training skills ?

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                          • #213
                            Originally posted by freestyle2music View Post
                            What does she has to proof after 3 Olympic Gold Medals and 9 WorldCup wins. Her riding skills ?, her training skills ?
                            She has nothing to prove. I am not talking about proving her skills, I am talking about testing her skills. Keeping her skills sharp as well as constantly improving them. There is always room for improvement and testing. If she only wants to go on a horse that is pretty much a guaranteed win, then I am led to believe that she does not want to test her skills, but collect ribbons, so to speak. Where I come from, that is not sporting at all.

                            For me and for many people I know, it is not about the ribbons, but the challenge. Getting a higher place, though not necessarily winning, on a more green horse is much more rewarding than winning on a made horse. I just don't see complaining so publicly as good sportmanship. Being disappointed about not bringing the better horse is not the problem from where I am sitting, thinking that the FEI should let her go just on Salinero just because she wants to. Where I come from, that is seen as being spoiled.

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                            • #214
                              Originally posted by freestyle2music View Post
                              Because reading is not a very common habbit on this forum

                              I can also remember that a poster called Ridgeback wanted the USEF rules to be bended for Catherine Haddad and now is screaming from the roofs that "rules shouldn't be bended for anyone"

                              Happy Eastern

                              Theo

                              Theo Theo talk about not reading please show me where I wanted the rules as you say bended for Catherine Haddad... Please I'm anxiously waiting. I have several times pointed out that the USEF has "bended" rules(Courtney was allowed to drop her low scores from Europe comes to mind) If we are going to have rules they should apply to EVERYONE!!!!!!!

                              Wow Theo you are a bit of a drama queen with the whole Screaming from the Roof Tops...Maybe you should go into acting.
                              Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot survive. Dalai Lama

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                              • #215
                                Originally posted by freestyle2music View Post
                                Meoooow, meooow, meoow,

                                En de boer hij ploegde voort

                                It's obvious that the so called "around the BBQ riders" have taking over this board.

                                What does she has to proof after 3 Olympic Gold Medals and 9 WorldCup wins. Her riding skills ?, her training skills ?
                                ROTFLMAO... if someone belives the rules should apply to the BBQ and Olympic riders some how that is meow...Get a life Theo
                                Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot survive. Dalai Lama

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                                • #216
                                  "En de boer hij ploegde voort "

                                  translates to 'And he ploughed the farmer', so either Theo is delving into some of those red light shops in Amsterdam or we need a translator.

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                                    #217
                                    Originally posted by slc2 View Post
                                    "En de boer hij ploegde voort "

                                    translates to 'And he ploughed the farmer', so either Theo is delving into some of those red light shops in Amsterdam or we need a translator.
                                    You certainly need to find a a new translator.

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                                    • #218
                                      That's for dang sure.

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                                      • #219
                                        Originally posted by ridgeback View Post
                                        FACT- she didn't qualify with Salinero! move on
                                        Yes, that was my point - people are saying she didn't try to qualify, didn't care if she qualified, was trying to buck the rules for no reason - but the fact is, she did try to qualify, so let's quit bashing her for no reason and move on!

                                        How does this make her different than countless other riders that did not qualify for something because they had to pull their horse due to personal injury or injury of the horse?

                                        It must be frustrating that she had to pull out due to personal injury, but that does not entitle her to special treatment.
                                        Again, that's my point: she did try to qualify Salinero (which other folks said she didn't) and because she was the previous year's champion, TPTB could have decided to allow her to go with Salinero. But they didn't, so she's bringing PB.

                                        You don't have sport if you don't have rules...FACT
                                        FACT: This is a sport, it does have rules, it's just how TPTB decide to interpret those rules that matters on any given day!

                                        At this point, I'm just looking forward to seeing EVERYBODY'S rides - it should be FABULOUS, baby, FABULOUS
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                                        • #220
                                          Originally posted by ridgeback View Post
                                          Theo Theo talk about not reading please show me where I wanted the rules as you say bended for Catherine Haddad... Please I'm anxiously waiting. I have several times pointed out that the USEF has "bended" rules(Courtney was allowed to drop her low scores from Europe comes to mind) If we are going to have rules they should apply to EVERYONE!!!!!!!

                                          Wow Theo you are a bit of a drama queen with the whole Screaming from the Roof Tops...Maybe you should go into acting.

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