• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

"Strangers" messing with your horse(s)?

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • "Strangers" messing with your horse(s)?

    Like most of you I spent more time than I would like to admit reading every post of kookicat's "Child in my pasture" thread where a 12 girl was terrarorizing kookicats horses and turned into a huge ordeal. I was wondering if anyone has had an issue like this?

    I co-manage a trail riding barn in maryland and I had some field shinnanigans too. At my barn two summers ago some horses were coming in to the barn in is morning with braided manes. It was pretty bizarre. And a few times when I wouldnt get out to check on my horse until the evening, some of the horses in the field had sweaty marks on their backs. Our paddock backs up to a development and we thought maybe someone was sneaking into the field in the evening and were messing with our horses. I was pretty upset to say the least. So a friend and I stayed late one night and hid in one of the run in sheds. After 40mins of waiting we saw two girls who looked about 12 or 13 years old look around then duck under the fence. Once they started towards the horses I stepped out of the run in and yelled, "What do you think you're doing in here?!" The girls wheeled around and took off back towards the development. We posted a few security camera in use sign (even though we didnt) and no tresspasing. We keep a look out but havent seen any evidence of them coming back.

    Anyone else have a story like this?

    ~ Jen

    He knows when you're happy
    He knows when you're comfortable
    He knows when you're confident
    And he always knows when you have carrots.
    ~Author Unknown

    A canter is a cure for every evil. ~Benjamin Disraeli

    In riding a horse we borrow freedom. ~Helen Thomson

    "To be loved by a horse or any animal, should fill us with awe-for we have not deserved it." -Garretty

  • #2
    Sounds like fairly gutsy but not too malignant teenagers.

    Good move with the signs.
    Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

    Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.


    • #3
      Yeah, at least you're attempting to cover yourself liability-wise with the signs. Unfortunately, short of posting sentry's all night, it's about all you can do.

      Hope it all works out for you!


      • #4
        Someone I went to college with came home to find her mare standing in the outdoor arena, wearing a saddle upside down on her stomach, her bridle in the mud, and an unconscious teenage girl.


        • #5
          Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
          Someone I went to college with came home to find her mare standing in the outdoor arena, wearing a saddle upside down on her stomach, her bridle in the mud, and an unconscious teenage girl.
          Dear lord!! Was the girl all right? Was the mare all right? And what did the girl say when she came to?
          Photography and art working to capture what's unique to today's rare and not-so-rare equine breeds.


          • Original Poster

            Originally posted by enjoytheride View Post
            Someone I went to college with came home to find her mare standing in the outdoor arena, wearing a saddle upside down on her stomach, her bridle in the mud, and an unconscious teenage girl.
            This is crazy. With so many people quick to sue now days things like this are scary. Stupid people annoy me.

            ~ Jen

            "To be loved by a horse or any animal, should fill us with awe-for we have not deserved it." -Garretty


            • #7
              Well I have a neighbor who lets there kids come in my field all the time and feed and pet my horses. One day I had one of them trying to climb up on my mini. She is barely 2 (the mini) and about 30 in.!!! I was ticked. My fence doesnt even boreder their land! I had spoken to their mother a million times but it didnt work. Luckily they moved!

              Okay now keep in mind I have a half mile long driveway and 5 acres of my land isnt fenced going down the drive before you get to where my horses are kept. Well two teenage girls thought it would be fun to drive about .3 miles down my drive to feed my horses! I have two senior horses and one is allegic to what seems to be everything now-a-days and the other is just old and shouldnt have a lot of stuff so I scream at them and they hope in their car in leave. Later that night my 21 yr old mare colics and I have to call the vet. I was pissed and I still have no clue what they ate!
              ~*It's not about the ribbons, but about the ride behind it"
              R.I.P. Teddy O'Connor


              • #8
                I'm in a neighborhood (luckily a nice one) and have sort of made it a point to be on very friendly terms with all my neighbors and educate the parents about the danger of small children around horses. So far I've been very lucky, no problems.

                FWIW... to the OP... Good idea on the surveillance signs, but if I had girls sneaking in to braid manes, I think I'd probably offer them riding lessons in exchange for barn work. That way you get to supervise activities and encourage a healthy activity safely, as well as build some good relations with the girls. I was offered that opportunity as a horse crazy kid with no money and am always willing to pay it forward.
                Lowly Farm Hand with Delusions of Barn Biddieom.
                Witherun Farm


                • #9
                  ABSOLUTELY SCARY !!!!! ....

                  Last year we had a mare (within a herd of 16 horses) come in with ACID BURNS on her face !!!! Our vet came out and verified that's what it was, and we treated accordingly. There was an actual splash pattern where somebody threw it at her ... Thank God it missed her eyes !!!!!!!!!!!!! . The person had to enter the pasture through four lines of electric high tensile ... the gate is locked at night. Hope they got knocked on their butt for their evil troubles ! Sheriff's department came out and investigated and asked around at a lot of the neighbor's places ... they're pretty sure they came across the individual and made sure to scare the bejeebers out of him (all they could do since they had no evidence).
                  Last edited by TinkerBells; Jan. 12, 2009, 03:05 PM. Reason: added text / corrected typo


                  • #10
                    When my stallion was boarded out for the winter at a place with an indoor a couple years ago I had problems with kids being allowed to handle him by the BO for turnout and such. He was a very well behaved stallion....but a stallion under the age of 5 none the less. A lot of kids worked at the barn for board and lessons as happens a lot.....but for a BO to allow then to handle a stallion is not at all the same as bringing in the mares and geldings. We had a discussion about that.No one ever did get hurt but I am not so sure things really changed when I was not there looking either. Sigh. We moved out of that barn for a number of reasons....but it was tough as it was pretty much the only indoor in the area that would take a stallion at all. The rest of them are used to the rules now and are good about only feeding them treats if they come and ask first/I accompany them to keep an eye on things.
                    For at home disasters on the minor end we have had neighbors that initially tried to feed the horses treats at the fence. On the whole it was innocently meant and just apples and carrots.....but there is always the bite risk since at least one ungelded "man" has been on the property since about 2003 here. There WAS one eedjit that was tossing them grass clippings, corn husks, watermelon rinds......you name it.Thank God they moved out of state...that neighbor was a drug addict and alcoholic so not exactly easy to reason with.
                    The only really bad thing we had happen was last summer: had two incidents of horses coming in lathered in sweat and two (one each time.....) had a BB inb them.....one in the neck and one in her side. We called the police who came around and talked to all the neighbors. No one of course saw anything. BUT one neighbor came over after the police left and said that the 2 teenage boys around the corner had been in trouble with the business next door to them for some property damage.....so his bet was on them. FWIW after the police visit the incidents DID stop..........thank God before someone lost an eye.
                    Providence Farm


                    • #11
                      When I was sharing a farm with someone a few years back we started having problems with our horses getting out. They would be out along the road and the gates wide open. When it happened the first time we thought it was our fault, that we had been absent-minded. And being so bothered by that we were extra careful and double checking the gates only to have the horses get out again. It was especially disturbing as this was a mare and foal group.

                      One day while I am there a man walks right up onto the property, opens the main entrance gate, walks right past me like I'm not there and then walks up to the pasture and opens that gate and goes inside where he proceeds to walk right up to the horses. I'm like WTF? Totally bewildered by the wierdness of it I go up to him and say "Can I help you?" He tells me "I like to come here and pet the horsies." By his mannerisms and language I figure out he is mentally disabled. I do engage him in conversation and he tells me that he comes EVERYDAY to pet "the horsies." Holy Crap! No wonder the horses have been getting out. After talking to him for awhile I realize that he is not going to understand me telling him why he cannot be coming onto the property and petting the horsies (LIABILITY for one, sheesh). Ultimately I tell him that he cannot come over any more because my mommy will get very mad at me and that we will both get in trouble if he comes back. He gets the message and leaves. And you can see he still never thinks to close a gate behind him. I never did see evidence of him returning. Being a grown man (probably being in his late 30's) who nonchalantly walked around doing things like this didn't raise the neighbors' eyebrows. He acted like he was supposed to be there and so they thought he was. I put the word out that nobody was supposed to be on the property unless we told the neighbors otherwise.
                      Altamont Sport Horses
                      Trakehners * Knabstruppers * Appaloosa Sport Horses
                      Home of stallions: Ambrosius af Asgard "Atlantis" & Hollywood Hot Spot
                      Birmingham, AL


                      • #12
                        My horses live out in the country so this isn't much of a problem around here thankfully...and I live in Texas...

                        However, I am NOT sorry to say that if this was happening on MY land - those kids would have heard some warning shots before my dogs/husband tracked them down, found out where they lived, and sued them and their parents for trespassing and any other legal claim I could make stick.

                        I am VERY protective of my animals and this would make me see red. I don't CARE if they are young Twilight-twitterpated girls wanting to braid my horse's tail.
                        Most friendships in the horse world are just an opinion away from doom.


                        • #13
                          This is why, when I eventually build my dream farm, the grand prix field will go next to the road, then the outdoor sand ring, then the barn, and all the pastures will be in the back, separated from the road by multiple gates on the driveway.

                          And my apartment will be above the barn with full views to both sides.

                          Binoculars and a shotgun too, if necessary.
                          The Noodlehttp://tiny.cc/NGKmT&http://tiny.cc/gioSA
                          Boy Wonderhttp://tiny.cc/G9290
                          The Hana is nuts! NUTS!!http://tinyurl.com/SOCRAZY


                          • #14
                            "You have 30 seconds before I turn the dogs loose!"


                            • #15
                              Smithers, release the hounds.


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Shiaway View Post
                                Smithers, release the hounds.
                                Hee, hee!


                                • #17
                                  I have never (to my knowledge) had this happen, fortunately. I would be pretty upset if it did. A neighbor kid respectfully asking if they can come over and pet my horses is one thing; someone traipsing on my property and feeding, petting or worse is quite another!
                                  I saw the angel in the marble and I set him free. - Michaelangelo


                                  • #18
                                    Our co-op just bought a small piece of property (building a new barn - oh joy!) and we were doing the final walk-through before the closing, when I looked out in the back pasture, and saw two girls just TEARING around the field on their horses. Apparently since the place has been deserted for a few months, they are using the field (behind a closed gate, although we just bought a lock) as a racetrack!

                                    At least the house is up front and the pastures are in the back.


                                    • #19
                                      One of the most surreal experiences of my life was at Equitana, where we brought some Friesian stallions for the Mane Event. One of the stallions was brought into the exhibition hall to meet and greet people. We would take groups into his stall and allow them to pet him.

                                      Due to an oversight, his crew accidentally left him alone for a few minutes. When I came back, there was a woman in his stall surrounded by about 10 people. I'm slow on the uptake, so I stood outside and listened.

                                      She went on and on about how she was training the horse, and their accomplishments together. Finally, a bell went off in my head, and I thought, "hey, wait! I'm the trainer."

                                      Another mobbed walked up at that time, and she slipped out before I had a chance to confront her. People are so strange.


                                      • #20
                                        My barn is on public property and is open to the public as a condition of the lease. Leads to fun times

                                        Most of the best stories are just hearsay and not things I've experienced. The most interesting observations I've made have to do with people bringing their kids to "see the horsies" (the nanny who brought 3 kids under 5, and didn't notice a preschooler running after a horse I know to be hot to grab his tail, for example. Or kids putting their faces through the bars of the turnout at, oh, about 2 feet off the ground while my 1400 lb draftx is tearing around the turnout at full speed bucking his energy out).

                                        There was one guy who seemed to have a limited grasp of english walking around one Sunday after the office was closed asking everyone if they rented horses.

                                        The lady in high heels and a miniskirt holding a little dog (there are 400 horses at the barn, many of them h/j or dressage show horses, not the place for her little dog!).

                                        Fun stuff