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    Lessons with horse in full training

    Is it common to get charged for lessons when a horse is in full training?
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    yes and no, depends on each trainer and how they break down their services and fees. you say the horse is in training, that usually means training rides on the horse, not necessarily inlcuding lessons involving the owner. Some trainers will do packages that include a combo of training rides and lessons with the owner, but again, that is up to each individual trainer and how they run their program.

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    • #3
      There are no set in stone definitions for terms like "full training, 'part training" and the like. Each trainer runs an independent business under their own definitions.

      Usually these are specifically defined either in your written contract or on a price list. Frankly I liked the "a la carte' billing for pro rides and lessons even with a required minimum monthly. Easier to keep track.
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      • #4
        Depends on the trainer. My trainer does not include lessons in her full/part training.
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        • #5
          Repeat of above. What is included is whatever it says in your contract. Each barn does it there own way.

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          • #6
            Yep, depends on the trainer. In my area most trainers consider "full training" to be a combination of trainer rides on the horse and a set number of lessons a week, but lessons and trainer rides could be switched out depending on the situation.

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            • #7
              Yes, in my experience training board includes lessons. My favorite trainer is very focused on making a stellar pair out of a horse/rider. And you cannot do that if the trainer is only working on the horse, not the rider. The pair needs to work together for success, so she includes lessons to make sure the rider is learning along with the horse.

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              • #8
                Totally depends. My full training board includes 6 sessions per week - doesn't matter whether they are rides, lessons, hacks, longes, etc.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Carol O View Post
                  Is it common to get charged for lessons when a horse is in full training?
                  If your full training package doesn't include lessons, yes.
                  If you want an extra lesson, on top of what's included in your full training package, yes.
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                  • #10
                    Agree with others that there is not *one* way this is usually done. I currently receive lessons as part of my full training package. But, in the past with a different trainer, lessons were paid separately, in addition to the training fee. It all depends on what that particular trainer includes in their full training package.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by alibi_18 View Post
                      If your full training package doesn't include lessons, yes.
                      If you want an extra lesson, on top of what's included in your full training package, yes.
                      Yep.

                      It varies, as noted. My trainer has full training defined as the rides during the week that the horse needs because then he doesn't have to make up for horse shows. So if you take a lesson on the weekend it's paid for separately, but if you work with him during the week it's part of what you've already paid for.

                      His situation is changing so the definition may change soon, but when I had horses in full training that was the deal, and it was explained in advance. I believe trainers can have any policy they like as long as they explain in advance - then it's up to you to decide whether or not you're willing to agree to those policies.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by joiedevie99 View Post
                        Totally depends. My full training board includes 6 sessions per week - doesn't matter whether they are rides, lessons, hacks, longes, etc.
                        Agreed, except mine when I had it didn't include longing - either trainer or I had to be on the horse.
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                        • #13
                          It really depends on the trainer, as everyone has said.

                          The one person I did full training with defined it as 5 45 minute "sessions" per week. She had mostly stopped riding due to injuries, but had a very talented working student on my horse, under the trainer's supervision. When I could be there, we started out by splitting the session about 60/40 WS vs. me. Then I got hurt and the WS did all the riding, and eventually I eased back into riding and then lessons. I started by hopping on to cool off the horse after the 45 minutes session, and gradually more and more of the session was me riding. By the end I had 3 lessons per week, the WS did two rides, and I had one unsupervised ride. Some of my lessons were group lessons with the WS as that allowed a little longer lesson and meant the trainer wasn't 100% focused on me... I get better results when I can practice or just take a break and not be instructed.
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                            Again it would depend, but it seems as if most horse trainers either have no contract or insufficient contracts, so these things are not stipulated. I so wish some sort of licensing was required for trainers/instructors which included basic business practices such as contracts and invoicing. In the past, I have had to develop a very specific set of instructions for trainers to let them know 1) what I expect from them and 2) what they can expect from me as the owner. If you do not have a good contract, maybe propose one along the grounds of expectation management and the elimination of surprises!!!
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                            • #15
                              My clients can chose between a lesson or a training ride. Or, sometimes I'll warm up the horse, then give the client a shorter lesson. I figure that they pay for a block of my time they can use it as they wish. If the horse will be returning to the owner's home in the near future, I will suggest that the owner start to take more lessons and have me ride the horse less so we can iron out the wrinkles before they are on their own.

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