• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Advice pls....beyond frustrated

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #41
    had to log in to say

    bravo meup!

    OP please reconsider and hang around. This board can be very tough, but its primarily because everyone is just so dedicated to their animals, and so many of us have been through the ringer so many times chasing non-existent rabbits down non-existent holes with our own horses... its easy to get trigger happy. If you can grow a skin thick enough to handle the onslaught some key phrases bring (ie, "OTTB" = ulcers and/or kissing spine, "saddle narrow enough" = not being fitted correctly, etc.) then you might discover this is a really good group of people that have their hearts in the right place and are very eager to help any horseman out.

    So glad you found the root of the problem! I wish you and your horse the best!
    Being terrible at something is the first step to being truly great at it. Struggle is the evidence of progress.


    • #42
      Originally posted by FineAlready View Post
      That sounds like a neurological issue, possibly c-spine arthritis. Especially the part about looking more sound when she is going faster.
      Huh. I have never heard of C-spine arthritis before! I just took a minute to look it up. So arthritis in the neck could effect the hind end? I'll have to look into this some more.


      • #43
        Originally posted by Golden boy View Post
        He was perfectly fine for my coach thanks and he has 3 of the best vets in the area working him. So we are running with this right now to see how it goes and changing a few things. So thanks but honestly if u have negative comments pls keep them to yourself. I find this board to be very rude and trust me will probably be the last time I post.

        And lots of horses do have behavioural problems and it isn't always pain related. And some are smarter than others so I will be speaking to my one vet who has worked on him the most and knows EVERYTHING that has been going on. I trust her and again if she suspects anything else she will be back.

        And again thanks to the ppl who have made this a great experience and to the others I know why I have mostly been a lurker!!

        So again thanks truly to the ppl who made this experience positive and the others this topic is done to you and no more feed back is needed. I'll be dealing with my amazing vets and coach who know and opinions I trust!!

        Sorry I'm never like this but some ppl on this board are so rude and inconsiderate and have ruined it for lots of ppl I have been lurking for years. And you wonder why horse ppl get a negative name...just saying!

        And question my horsemanship all you want you don't know me or my horse and everyone who does knows he is above and beyond cared for extremely extremely well and they are the ones who matter and know!!!!
        I just want to say I'm sorry people can be jerks when it comes to posting to get HELP for your horse! The same thing happened to me on another forum. I posted looking for advice and while I got some, a select few people seemed to get off on passive-aggressively telling me how stupid I was and what a terrible horse owner I was, even though I explained over and over what actually happened, they couldn't be convinced. It left such a bad taste in my mouth I left the board that had, in many ways, become an extended family. You really sound like a fantastic owner and I hope you can overcome the bullies and not be afraid to post or left bitter like I was. Good luck with your boy, and I wish you many years of happy, healthy riding.


        • #44
          Originally posted by Rusty15 View Post
          Huh. I have never heard of C-spine arthritis before! I just took a minute to look it up. So arthritis in the neck could effect the hind end? I'll have to look into this some more.
          Look up spondylolisthesis. You will see some stuff about "wobbles" which is usually diagnosed in foals, but you will also see that Seattle Slew had it in his cervical spine from arthritis when he was an old horse. They invented a surgery to stabilize his spine that they use in humans today!
          "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller


          • #45
            There are a variety of saddle pads, shim pads, half pads and such on the market today.

            Having a saddle that is too wide is much easier to work with than having one that is too narrow.

            There are pads that are thick and have sort of a memory foam so they mold well to the horses back.



            • #46
              If the saddle fits BUT placement is to far forward that will also cause pain and chiro issues (with the SI). Make certain when you ask the saddler to check gthe fit that YOU place the saddle where you normally do - if it's not correct make saddler show you the proper way to place the saddle.

              I also think pain is the issue - not attitude (based on your description). Vets told my friend it was attitude until she fnally found a vet that found the physical issues and after an injection (needed yearly) everything changed - mare was best she had everr been.
              Now in Kentucky


              • #47
                Well sometimes the perfect storm comes together - horse is stuck inside due to weather, rider is a bit off track, horse is a little sore, it's cold and stormy, and a bucking fit ensues.

                I'm not one to jump to kissing spine from that. Sometimes horses have a few bad days and the trainer needs to address the issue. Sometimes the horse is hurt and it needs to be addressed.

                Sometimes it's a combination.

                It sounds like the OP is trying to sort it out. Let's not beat them up for trying to figure out a reasonable approach.

                One thing you might consider is how the trainer is riding differently. What is making the horse either more physically comfortable or more agreeable? Focus on that and see how you can adjust your riding to mirror what is happening with the trainer.


                • Original Poster

                  Thanks guys, he is doing great and finally felt like the horse he was 6 weeks ago.

                  But I'm starting to look into other options for our saddle. Thinking he has been changing shape and it's not fitting as well as it once did. It's not horrible and I have proper pads for it. But I just want the best fit for him and heading to pick up some possible options Monday to test ride. I love my Stubben but does anyone have any experience with Prestige or Passier?


                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Golden boy View Post
                    Thinking he has been changing shape and it's not fitting as well as it once did.

                    I love my Stubben but does anyone have any experience with Prestige or Passier?
                    All great saddles but if you love your Stubben, I'd have a fitter (or Stubben rep) out to see if the saddle can be adjusted.


                    • #50
                      Stubbens can have the flocking adjusted, but the trees aren't adjustable. Passier's trees can be adjusted multiple times, and to a greater degree than the usual 3/4" / 2 cm. Of the two, I prefer the Passiers; IMO the quality and workmanship are superior.
                      Kitt Hazelton
                      Saddle Fitter