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Nick Peronace Dressage

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  • Can you post the video of you doing passage on your app here on the COTH?

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    • You can upload videos to Facebook. Kellydressage even said she has atleast one video of you riding. Can't she post that?

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      • Originally posted by alternate_universe View Post
        So, instead of going back to a lower level and showing in that and likely getting better scores, you quit showing altogether? You do realize that without any show scores and no videos there is really no way to prove to potential clients that you can ride at any given level?
        Not everyone is superficial or hung up on scores. Some people are willing to try something because they have an open mind. Ever single clinic I book is based on the notion that they are giving me an opportunity and so far no one has been disappointed. It is a good thing not everyone is so obsessed about competition otherwise masters like Nuno or Baucher would never be known today. Nuno was discovered he did not compete

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        • So in summary you spent 3 years as a working student, quit riding when you were 21 after never having successfully shown anything at all, come back over a decade later and decide the best course of action is not to continue your very limited education but to hang up your shingle and market yourself as a maestro haute ecole grand prix dressage trainer.

          Just making sure I have the whole picture here.

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          • So far we have...

            - Trainer with no show experience or any students with show experience
            - No video of him or students riding
            - No explanation of the GP horses he said he trained

            Why should any person pay to ride with you when there are dozens of other trainers with show records, USDF medals, and successful students out there? That's an honest question, not snark. Why should someone pick you clinic over say, Lendon Grey or someone else?

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            • Originally posted by DoubleTwistedWire View Post
              You do realize you only need 60% at GP for your gold medal, right? If you'd been working with anyone on that list of people you'd trained with, they would have told you that a 58% the first time out at that level was NOT a problematic score.

              Why didn't you show at a lower level before (or after!) trying GP, or the YR programs, which at 17 you'd have qualified for? I get that showing isn't a priority for some people, but most of them like to have SOME SORT of record at a level, especially if they're working GP.
              I did not know that know. I thought I had to score well into the 60s or 70s. Still, I like the path I took, and I'm happy I stepped out of the show ring. If I had not, then I would never have picked up Alois Podhajkys book, The Complete Training Of Horse And Rider, and started experimenting with the airs above ground. Everyday I worked on it and found out what worked and what did not work. Chevy certainly got a real charge out of it and when he knew what we were doing he would start bunny hopping in place )

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              • Originally posted by Manahmanah View Post
                So in summary you spent 3 years as a working student, quit riding when you were 21 after never having successfully shown anything at all, come back over a decade later and decide the best course of action is not to continue your very limited education but to hang up your shingle and market yourself as a maestro haute ecole grand prix dressage trainer.

                Just making sure I have the whole picture here.
                I have NEVER called myself maestro! In training Chevy to Airs, plus working with many horsrs at all levels has given me a wonderful education. "My horse, my teacher"- Alois Podhajky. I would be happy to come out and show you my education and what I could do for you, but you sound like your mind is made up. Still, Id be happy to work with you if you are ever ready

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                • If you were teaching your horse airs based on a book how did you verify you were doing it correctly? Did you have any guidance from another trainer who was already experienced in haute ecole movements?

                  When you go to clinics what group of riders do you generally get placed with? Other upper level riders? How do you tell the clinician what group to put you in?

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                  • Originally posted by alternate_universe View Post
                    So far we have...

                    - Trainer with no show experience or any students with show experience
                    - No video of him or students riding
                    - No explanation of the GP horses he said he trained

                    Why should any person pay to ride with you when there are dozens of other trainers with show records, USDF medals, and successful students out there? That's an honest question, not snark. Why should someone pick you clinic over say, Lendon Grey or someone else?
                    I have already answered this question.

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                    • Training a single horse "to airs" does not make you a haute ecole or GP trainer. You have yet to explain the reported 14 horses you also trained to GP. If you can prove any other horses, other than Chevy, were trained to GP level by you, we'd have a different story.

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                      • Can you list the dates and places of your 2014 clinics?

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                        • Can you explain why you are pro-rollkur, but also claim to be a classical trainer?

                          You also know that Baucher died in 1873 and therefore cannot actually teach you? (Versus just reading what he wrote)

                          And that Nuno Oliveira died in 1989 in Australia and therefore died before he could teach you, too? Unless you read someone's books and writings and that means they are your teacher.

                          If that's the case, then Kyra Kyrklund, Klaus Balkenhol, Daniel Stewart, Janet Foy, and a host of others are MY teachers, and that's a WAY more impressive list than yours so I'm going to hang my shingle out and teach some clinics!!
                          RIP my beautiful Lola, ????–August 29, 2014

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                          • Originally posted by Nick Peronace View Post
                            I have already answered this question.

                            All you've basically said is "I have no record but I love dressage very much and read many books about it." That doesn't justify advertising yourself as an upper level clinician. You have no publically available proof of your training or riding accomplishments other a few old photos of you and your childhood horse.

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                            • [ I have enjoyed this conversation I hope I have cleared up some misunderstandings or misconceptions, and perhaps some other time I can come back on here but I do have other obligations.
                              To answer this last question, I had only the book to guide me! If I felt that Chevy was struggling I backed off and drop the exercise and went on to something different. Chevy could not do ALL Airs. Not many horses can! I knew it was right when he did it lol! Example, Levade in hand. Chevy had a long back so collection was not easy for him, but what I was able to do was teach him to rear on command. From the rear I taught him Courbette. From Courbette I taught him Capriole and so on. Chevy never did Levade in hand, but DID mounted and out of a canter, not a Piaffe like you're supposed to do
                              QUOTE=alternate_universe;7341857]If you were teaching your horse airs based on a book how did you verify you were doing it correctly? Did you have any guidance from another trainer who was already experienced in haute ecole movements?

                              When you go to clinics what group of riders do you generally get placed with? Other upper level riders? How do you tell the clinician what group to put you in?[/QUOTE]

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                              • I have stayed well past my 30min. Everyone, have a nice evening!
                                Thank you

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                                • Guess we're never going to see any video of him or his students riding or get an explanation for his claim of training 14 horses to Grand Prix.

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                                  • Originally posted by alternate_universe View Post
                                    Guess we're never going to see any video of him or his students riding or get an explanation for his claim of training 14 horses to Grand Prix.
                                    Because there are none.
                                    RIP my beautiful Lola, ????–August 29, 2014

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                                    • Nope. Selective question answering and then out of time (typical). No answers to the difficult questions, the ones that don't favor his agenda which seems to be to mislead beginners. This is the same type of situation with the Spirit Bridle guy.

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                                      • I'm gonna buy me some books and make me a trainer

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                                        • Well, atleast whenever someone Googles his name this thread will show up in the first page of results. Hopefully some future potential clients have enough forethought to look him up first. Does anyone think it would be worthwhile to tip off the local and state dressage clubs to this guy's scam?

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