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      Originally posted by Appsolute View Post
      Interesting... now quoting Kelly on this page - on his FB page.

      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

      Online DRAMA is the last thing I want to see from a potential trainer.
      I do believe kelly is his sock puppet.
      "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

      ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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        Maybe Kelly could show us his clinic schedule for 2014 -- who is hosting, where, when, who is signed up to ride. That might be very insightful since it's "all over the world". I'd love some additional information about Kelly and her Mom and their horses - as in how long they've been doing dressage and what level, who else have they schooled with, etc. That would all be quite revealing. Maybe some photos of them? Alot of smoke and mirrors but not much substantial which is a good reason to run away!
        PennyG

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          I think all of you have something backwards. Peronace doesn't ride for you or even me, he rides for the horse and his art. You either follow his artistic technique and believe in him or you don't, it's as simple as that. To go on and on doesn't make any sense, especially if you're not even willing to come out to his clinic.
          For me and many others, we admire him greatly and will continue to work with him and get fantastic results. Criticism is one thing, but you people act like he owes you something. He does not! But you owe it to yourselves to keep an open mind and always want to better your horse. I took, as many others took, a chance on this man who placed an advertisement in a magazine asking for an opportunity to show us his technique. With my open heart and open mind, I am very happy that I did, and I know the others are as well.
          But now you all are going to start picking on me because I support him? Because I work with him and get good results and I believe in his technique? None of you have seen me ride either, so I think this is a group of people who just want to hate on someone.

          I said my part. Keep talking, it is pointless. Peronace doesn't care what a handful of critics think, his amazing abilities speak for themselves as he gets results time and time and time again, and will continue to get booked to clinic after clinic after clinic.

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              Originally posted by kellydressage View Post
              None of you have seen me ride either, so I think this is a group of people who just want to hate on someone.
              Wanting to see how a professional rides can hardly be characterized as hating on someone.

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                Originally posted by NJRider View Post
                Saw this https://www.facebook.com/events/5229...771/?ref=br_tf

                Good news for the NJ fans!
                Oh boy. Those seem like nice people but they're kind of basic 4H local type level H/J people. Why they'd be hosting a dressage clinic with a GP level trainer is beyond me. I didn't even think they had an indoor (but I could be wrong). Or a dressage ring.
                ~Veronica
                "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                  "The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli"

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                    Originally posted by NJRider View Post
                    It is up to you vfx111 to check it out, we will spring for the audit fee! http://www.suffolkstables.com/
                    You've got to be kidding. Lordy lordy. The assistant trainer there is a friend of mine too Maybe they do have an indoor, come to think. Because she rides all winter long? Hm... they are absolutely not GP dressage type people, that I am sure of.

                    $30 to audit?! No way. Unless someone else is paying. If they do, I will take photos and video (of the maestro, not of others unless they request).
                    ~Veronica
                    "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                    http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                      To the fans of Mr. Peronace: If I am going to pay $75 an hour (or 45 minutes, don't know which) for a professional's work, I am going to want to see a portfolio of what he/she is capable of or some pretty darn good recommendations. That's more than a good house painter or plumber makes, kind of up there with a nurse practitioner, course developer, or mid range programmer. No one would hire any of those people without some review of their credentials or a look at their prior work. Why would spending some significant amount of money on a horse trainer be any different?

                      We are not being snarky, mean, or difficult. So far, nobody's been able to produce much of anything other than hearsay. Video? Centerline scores? Evidence of advanced training? Testimonials? The great trainer I ride with has all of these and more. We are just trying to help people be better trainer shoppers.

                      In case you didn't know, the horse biz is full of people parading as experts. Sad but true.

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                        Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
                        You've got to be kidding. Lordy lordy. The assistant trainer there is a friend of mine too Maybe they do have an indoor, come to think. Because she rides all winter long? Hm... they are absolutely not GP dressage type people, that I am sure of.

                        $30 to audit?! No way. Unless someone else is paying. If they do, I will take photos and video (of the maestro, not of others unless they request).
                        I'll chip in $5!

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                          He says he is doing clinics all over, but only 2 are listed. I wonder why he is reluctant to list the 2014 clinics?
                          Last edited by Joanne; Dec. 30, 2013, 09:21 PM.

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                            Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
                            The assistant trainer there is a friend of mine too
                            Well, please, call the assistant trainer up. Ask about the clinic.

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                              Lots of new content on the fb page now. We've inspired him I think. Still doesn't answer most of our questions....

                              https://www.facebook.com/NickPeronaceDressage

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                                By the way, I don't mean ANY DISS AT ALL ON THE SUFFOLKS STABLES people. Really, really, really. It seems like a delightful place to ride that fills a niche for beginner types. When I see they around everyone seems happy and well mounted. It's just that seem completely NOT the type of barn/riders who need a grand prix level dressage clinician. I don't want ANYONE to think I am being negative about them. Hell, I don't need a grand prix level dressage clinician!!!! I'm a ragtaggy local hunter type, for the most part. So I'm not looking down-- just puzzled why THEY are hosting THIS clinician.
                                ~Veronica
                                "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                                http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                                  Kellydressage: What Mr. Peronace is doing, atleast at the moment, is the equivalent of someone reading some college level text books at home and calling themselves a college student without actually being enrolled in a university. At the very least it's misleading. At the very worst it's intentional fraud.

                                  Schooling GP and successfully showing GP are two different thing. Schooling GP but being unable to produce any evidence (videos) makes for an empty claim. Would you hire a person with an empty resume to do a job?

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                                    Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
                                    Why they'd be hosting a dressage clinic with a GP level trainer is beyond me.
                                    Because hes been cold calling every barn in NJ trying to set up clinics. I know because he called me out of the blue one day. I have an actual grand prix gold medalist trainer though and so politely declined.

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                                      Originally posted by Manahmanah View Post
                                      Because hes been cold calling every barn in NJ trying to set up clinics. I know because he called me out of the blue one day. I have an actual grand prix gold medalist trainer though and so politely declined.

                                      I have now heard the same. I know 2 farms that engaged him. One didn't get past a phone call and said he "was inlove with himself and completely clueless" and the other allowed him to come for a training ride on a horse. The folks who witnessed couldn't stop laughing about the "maestro" he apparently calls himself and lots of other language that may impress newbies but was notably unusual (and funny) to real dressage riders. They said he was not the worst rider they'd ever seen, but had no business taking $$.
                                      Last edited by fatorangehorse; Dec. 30, 2013, 07:20 PM. Reason: i was going to fix punctuation - but didn't. Please be gentle.

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                                        Originally posted by kellydressage View Post
                                        Criticism is one thing, but you people act like he owes you something. He does not!
                                        If this person wants to exist within the dressage community, (OUR community) he owes us CREDENTIALS. Talk is cheap and the gullible are plenty.
                                        ... _. ._ .._. .._

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                                          Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                                          If this person wants to exist within the dressage community, (OUR community) he owes us CREDENTIALS. Talk is cheap and the gullible are plenty.
                                          This is true. I don't begrudge the guy trying to make a living but representing yourself as something you are not, at best, turns people away from the sport. At worst gets them injured or worse.

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