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    Originally posted by LeannNelson View Post
    I am the owner of the horse in question and I just want to let you all know that those are bell boots on his pasterns...not chains... and I think the noise you are hearing is the sand hitting the arena walls. I have never used chains and actually have never seen hem used. And I am sorry that you all have such a problem with nick he really does have some good exercises and ways to teach. I believe you can learn something from everyone IMO. Of anyone wants to chat you can email me at lfuller07@msn.com or find me on FB via my username. Thanks!
    Your horse is quite lovely, and if those are indeed bell boots, I apologize. They just don't look or fit like my bell boots of the same brand, which may have led to the confusion. Your horse is very nice and looks like a very kind and forgiving animal. I wish you all the best....in the quest for education, it often takes several different paths and trial and error to sift the wheat from the chaff.
    "Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them."
    -Richard S. Bach

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      I bet there are people in your area on this forum who could put you in touch with another trainer and instructor who does not lie about their background and accolades, and help you make your very lovely horse even lovelier.

      Thanks for coming on here and telling us about his bell boots. You were very polite and respectful and that says a lot about you! My apologies as well.
      RIP my beautiful Lola, ????August 29, 2014

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        Originally posted by Unfforgettable View Post
        Your horse is quite lovely, and if those are indeed bell boots, I apologize. They just don't look or fit like my bell boots of the same brand, which may have led to the confusion. Your horse is very nice and looks like a very kind and forgiving animal. I wish you all the best....in the quest for education, it often takes several different paths and trial and error to sift the wheat from the chaff.
        I just rode one weekend with him...he's not an aggressive trainer or anything and I am fairly new to dressage I did all the training on Fem but frankly have only been able to afford open shows and schooling shows. I don't plan to go big with him just plan to keep it fun and keep learning!

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          Unforgettable, I too has the same brand of bell boots. If I can figure out how to edit video on YouTube from my iPad I would be willing to post a comparison Video

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            I, too, think you guys have gone over the line. It does not appear he is doing any harm and if his clients are fine with him, really, who cares? There are plenty of similar 'inflation of credentials' around. Look at Linda P. who has given us the 'game of contact'. And someone whose name escapes me with his version of western dressage. There are plenty of other places for righteous indignation without the witch hunt.
            www.settlementfarm.us

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              Originally posted by LeannNelson View Post
              I just rode one weekend with him...he's not an aggressive trainer or anything and I am fairly new to dressage I did all the training on Fem but frankly have only been able to afford open shows and schooling shows. I don't plan to go big with him just plan to keep it fun and keep learning!
              You sound like a great horseman, Leann. Best of luck to you. Your boy really is handsome and looks like a lot of fun!
              "Aye God, Woodrow..."

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                And now the good Reverend Buck has appeared. This thread officially wins the internet.

                Oh, and you've all been served: http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154479/served

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                  I just rode one weekend with him...he's not an aggressive trainer or anything and I am fairly new to dressage I did all the training on Fem but frankly have only been able to afford open shows and schooling shows. I don't plan to go big with him just plan to keep it fun and keep learning!
                  You've done a very nice job with your horse, he's lovely.

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                    Dressage COTHers, can anyone post some lovely videos of great riding and teaching? This would be a perfect time to show what excellent dressage looks like. I am a newbie dressage rider from Eventerland, so always like to get good examples. TIA!

                    PS Especially interested in balanced cantering and lateral work.

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                      Originally posted by Justa Bob View Post
                      Dressage COTHers, can anyone post some lovely videos of great riding and teaching? This would be a perfect time to show what excellent dressage looks like. I am a newbie dressage rider from Eventerland, so always like to get good examples. TIA!

                      PS Especially interested in balanced cantering and lateral work.


                      Here you go. One of my fav's. Just beautiful

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=1cnCOP76s1c

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                        I can only assume that this response was directed at me since it was my picture he criticized. I will repost my post below as you will see 1)I never called myself respectful and classy (although I will take the compliment) 2) I have not abused him. Quite the contrary, I said he was not a poor rider, just uneducated and if he paid his training dues might make it as a professional. 3) I never claimed to be anything other than a struggling AA rider...NEVER a professional. I am quite happy to take the critique of my picture. I don't even disagree with your assessment. yes, my heels are up. Yes, my legs are drawn up. Yes, for that moment I hung on the reins. Anyone with basic dressage knowledge can make that assessment. That does not make you a professional. However, I am still proud of that picture as I think my mare looks lovely (despite my riding) and for me it shows progress. 4) I never said it was uncalled for. Although it is strange to have my picture randomly chosen for your "professional" critique. However, your statements that I just bought some high dollar horse (thank you by the way) to gain good scores at Second Level are just wrong (rather she is my own homebred and a lot of hard work). In your own sentiment I can only think you are jealous.

                        As for taking your offer, I will politely decline. I have an amazing trainer and access to clinicians with many years of real knowledge, training, riding and teaching. Folks who are honest, open minded (funny how a homophobic man choses dressage??), not deceitful, not egotistic...well essentially everything you are not. Yes, it is true (at least to our knowledge) he is not a horse abuser, but that doesn't make him better...just not as bad.

                        Again, below is my original response to NP using my picture:

                        Wow, all I did was go grocery shopping in this frigid weather to come back to this! First off, I am a struggling AA rider. Have never claimed anything more and fully admit I would have no place calling myself a professional rider/ trainer,
                        or even breeder for that matter.

                        Secondly, I take it as a HUGE compliment that he feels a mare I bred, raised, and trained with the help of my trainer was one that I went overseas and bought with a lot of $$. I did go overseas and buy her mother for $10K many, many years ago and was able to do that purchase because I had saved exactly $10k to purchase my dream horse. My father paid for my birthday trip overseas to go horse shopping and paid for her airfare to the US, which was MUCH cheaper in those days. I was lucky in getting a massive break on quarantine costs as I was a vet student at the time and worked at the quarantine facility. I bred my mare in Germany before import and that resulting foal is Roseblume, my riding mare.

                        Thirdly, believe me I have heard from my trainer more times than I would like to recount "HEELS DOWN" and "LET GO". I am sure my mare feels that way as well In that picture I am starting a medium canter which I had been getting 6s on and we were certainly capable of higher scores. However, I always felt like I was flying but the video proved the judges right in "could be more" "needs more" "conservative". In my head though I always felt like the kid in the black stallion movie galloping on the beach!! In this picture I said to myself "go for it"!!!! And I did, then said "holy shit" and hung on for dear life. Either way I love the picture as it shows progress for my lovely mare and I.

                        In an odd way I am flattered that he stole my picture. Is that weird or what?? In no way do I want to be associated with this man, but it is so funny to me that he stole my picture.

                        Now off to go ride my high dollar mare. I will not tell her anyone said that about her as she has a big enough ego as it is



                        Originally posted by kellydressage View Post
                        You call yourselfs respectful and classy?
                        You have done nothing but abuse this poor man yet when
                        he posted a picture of your bad riding, you then say it is
                        uncalled for?

                        As for myself, his students, the students in Iowa and anywhere else, will
                        keep working and getting positive results from his teaching.

                        Not only do you "classy" people bash someone you
                        never have worked with, but he is willing to put his money
                        where his mouth is and give a free clinic. But you keep
                        doing is talking.

                        Talking
                        Talking
                        Talking.
                        The only fakes around here are all of you!
                        Read about my time at the Hannoveraner Verband Breeders Courses:
                        http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2011.html
                        http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2012.html

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                          Leann, I'm sorry that you and your horse got caught up in this. He's lovely and you've done a good job.

                          The umbrage that we're all taking with Mr. Peronace is that he has outright lied about his qualifications and supposed opportunities (ie publishing deals etc.). No, he's not abusing animals - but trainers and teachers have (IMO) a moral obligation to their students to be honest about their experiences and guide them safely and he's abusing the trust of his clients.

                          Side note:
                          Dear friends, can we move on past the negativity of what a handful of critics are saying? I did not want to start the year out with suing anyone and that in itself is negative enough. Please, no more post, I appreciate some of you coming to my defense, but as I posted a picture earlier showing the kind of riders they are, they're on willing to take me up on my offer of a free clinic, and all the continuous rants, proves these are nothing but self deluded hateful and jealous individuals.
                          There are plenty of pictures of us on this board - some of us are better/more experienced riders than others, but we're honest about our skill sets and are not misleading people.

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                            Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
                            . This man is simply ignorant as are the riders he draws in.
                            No. This man set out to deceive people by systematically lying about his credentials. That means he is not an innocent who simply overestimates his ability. He is a scammer. Personally, I believe that people who are aware of such deception and remain silent about it are complicit in the deception.

                            Having said that, some of what has gone on in the thread has not been good, imo. But not any of the stuff that actually involves NP himself - he doesn't play fair so he can't expect anyone to play fair with him.

                            Liz

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                              Originally posted by Justa Bob View Post
                              Dressage COTHers, can anyone post some lovely videos of great riding and teaching? This would be a perfect time to show what excellent dressage looks like. I am a newbie dressage rider from Eventerland, so always like to get good examples. TIA!

                              PS Especially interested in balanced cantering and lateral work.
                              I know he's polarizing to some COTHers, but...
                              http://www.paulbelasik.com/
                              turn down the volume - the video has music No lateral work shown here...but, a pic of actual airs (the levade is a TB btw)

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                                I appreciate some of you coming to my defense, but as I posted a picture earlier showing the kind of riders they are, they're on willing to take me up on my offer of a free clinic, and all the continuous rants, proves these are nothing but self deluded hateful and jealous individuals.

                                And in response to that statement, and to list my 2013 "credentials" as an AA rider....2013 Second Level NCDCTA AA Champion, 3rd place NCDCTA HOY Second Level, consistently scoring in the mid-high 60s at Second Level during 2013. My credentials as a breeder are inaugural recipient of the Elysium Fund from the Dressage Foundation, attendee at both the mare and stallion Hannoveraner Verband Breeder's Course, contributor to the Education Committee of the AHS.

                                OK, NP....what are your credentials as a professional?
                                Read about my time at the Hannoveraner Verband Breeders Courses:
                                http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2011.html
                                http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2012.html

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                                  I agree!

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                                    I used to board at the same farm as Jane Savoie MANY years ago (Zuleika Farm) and watched her ride a lot. Once she let me ride Happenstance to see what it felt like to be on the bit (albeit just at the walk). Loved watching any clinic or lesson she gave.

                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRlmQ9pLSqY

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUm_jcuBAag
                                    Last edited by Joanne; Jan. 3, 2014, 07:20 PM.

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                                      Regarding posting videos we like of dressage...

                                      Is this where I get to put in that one of Klimke and Ahlerich in New York?

                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXMsopDt3mE
                                      The Trials and Jubilations of a Twenty-Something Re-rider
                                      Happy owner of Kieran the mostly-white-very-large-not-pony.

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                                        Originally posted by Justa Bob View Post
                                        Dressage COTHers, can anyone post some lovely videos of great riding and teaching? This would be a perfect time to show what excellent dressage looks like. I am a newbie dressage rider from Eventerland, so always like to get good examples. TIA!

                                        PS Especially interested in balanced cantering and lateral work.
                                        Jane Savoie has some great videos on youtube and a free newsletter

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                                          Originally posted by analise View Post
                                          Regarding posting videos we like of dressage...

                                          Is this where I get to put in that one of Klimke and Ahlerich in New York?

                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXMsopDt3mE
                                          And I was there!!! On the rail somewhere! At least until they escorted us out

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