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  • #41
    If he is a trainer to beginner riders, I'm not sure how experienced he needs to be in Dressage.

    Most of his students won't even know the difference, just happy to ride a safe horse in a pretty black dressage saddle, and get introduced to a new sport. They may figure it out after a few thousand dollars are thrown down the tubes but hey, same with yoga, golf, and tennis.

    I wish him all the best.

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    • #42
      About half of the trainers, horse dealers, barn owners, and farriers I've met are the same. All he'll have to do is find a few wealthy and gullible newbies and he'll be set for at least a few years.

      Who knows, he may be entertaining at clinics. Sometimes personality and snarky comments are worth the admission. Especially at a $10 price.

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      • #43
        so, Opening Poster, will you go? :-D

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        • #44
          I did find s semblance of credentials his clinic organizer advertised: "His history is jumping 4ft and 5ft courses and eventing at Preliminary level before making a complete change over to Dressage. He was a working student for three years for Lorenda Lende. Has Cliniced with some of the best trainers in the world such as: Robert Dover, Klaus Bekenhol, Bettina Drummond, Joao Oliveira. Is a student of Baucher. Trained his own Appaloosa "Chevy" to Grand Prix Dressage and master of Airs Above Ground. "Chevy" is recognized every year at Dressage at Devon with the "Chevy Cup" given to the highest scoring non warmblood from Prix St George to Grand Prix. Has recently been asked by 'Dressage Today' to start writing training articles. Has a book coming out in 2014"
          "The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli"

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          • #45
            Originally posted by beowulf View Post
            Well, I called it! Settling in with some popcorn with BigBayHanoMare, this read is going to be good!
            I'll bring some nice, warm blankets if you bring pillows!

            I'm sure his classical background loooves his pro-rollkur stance, too.
            RIP my beautiful Lola, ????August 29, 2014

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            • #46
              I have ridden in clinics with Kathy Connelly, Felicitas Von Neumann Cosel, Suzanne Von Dietze, Cathy Morelli and Jessica Ransehousen. I would have no place billing myself to conduct a clinic or a lesson

              And I think I spelled everyone's names correctly! Klaus Bekenhol??? Geesh, if I was posting a "press release" for a professional event I would at least Google their names and spell check.

              Originally posted by NJRider View Post
              I did find s semblance of credentials his clinic organizer advertised: "His history is jumping 4ft and 5ft courses and eventing at Preliminary level before making a complete change over to Dressage. He was a working student for three years for Lorenda Lende. Has Cliniced with some of the best trainers in the world such as: Robert Dover, Klaus Bekenhol, Bettina Drummond, Joao Oliveira. Is a student of Baucher. Trained his own Appaloosa "Chevy" to Grand Prix Dressage and master of Airs Above Ground. "Chevy" is recognized every year at Dressage at Devon with the "Chevy Cup" given to the highest scoring non warmblood from Prix St George to Grand Prix. Has recently been asked by 'Dressage Today' to start writing training articles. Has a book coming out in 2014"
              Read about my time at the Hannoveraner Verband Breeders Courses:
              http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2011.html
              http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2012.html

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              • #47
                Originally posted by NJRider View Post
                I did find s semblance of credentials his clinic organizer advertised: "His history is jumping 4ft and 5ft courses and eventing at Preliminary level before making a complete change over to Dressage. He was a working student for three years for Lorenda Lende. Has Cliniced with some of the best trainers in the world such as: Robert Dover, Klaus Bekenhol, Bettina Drummond, Joao Oliveira. Is a student of Baucher. Trained his own Appaloosa "Chevy" to Grand Prix Dressage and master of Airs Above Ground. "Chevy" is recognized every year at Dressage at Devon with the "Chevy Cup" given to the highest scoring non warmblood from Prix St George to Grand Prix. Has recently been asked by 'Dressage Today' to start writing training articles. Has a book coming out in 2014"

                A quick USEA rider search doesn't turn up anyone registered with them with his last name, so I have to wonder about the eventing "experience." I've never seen an unrecognized event run Prelim, and you need to be a USEA member for anything above Beginner Novice.

                I will bear in mind, in planning my upcoming show year, that I can just show at whatever level I'd like under an L judge, blame breed bias for my score, and refer to myself as a PSG rider, who happened to get low scores from terribly prejudiced scores. Then maybe I can give a few clinics!

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                  #48
                  No, I don't think I'll be attending unless I am hard up for entertainment that weekend. As other posters have already pointed out we have some amazing talent and educational opportunities in our little frozen chunk of the Midwest. Hell, we have some of our own resident charlatans, we don't need to ship them in

                  In the bigger picture though, as an AA this crap pisses me off. The number of people who wake up one day and decide that they want to hock their wares without putting the sweat and passion into it to be the genuine thing... Blech.

                  If there is one thing I've learned in the horse industry it is to run, not walk, away from anyone who ridicules others to build themselves up. Actually, that works in life too.

                  Also, to the man himself. I read that you have trained 14 horses to Grand Prix and it takes you only two years to do so. Were they all Appaloosas or....?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DoubleTwistedWire View Post

                    I will bear in mind, in planning my upcoming show year, that I can just show at whatever level I'd like under an L judge, blame breed bias for my score, and refer to myself as a PSG rider, who happened to get low scores from terribly prejudiced scores. Then maybe I can give a few clinics!
                    I did point out to someone that with a few well placed friends with umbrellas, I could probably get pirouettes, you are welcome to use this little trick in your plan, lol.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by NJRider View Post
                      I did find s semblance of credentials his clinic organizer advertised: "His history is jumping 4ft and 5ft courses and eventing at Preliminary level before making a complete change over to Dressage. He was a working student for three years for Lorenda Lende. Has Cliniced with some of the best trainers in the world such as: Robert Dover, Klaus Bekenhol, Bettina Drummond, Joao Oliveira. Is a student of Baucher. Trained his own Appaloosa "Chevy" to Grand Prix Dressage and master of Airs Above Ground. "Chevy" is recognized every year at Dressage at Devon with the "Chevy Cup" given to the highest scoring non warmblood from Prix St George to Grand Prix. Has recently been asked by 'Dressage Today' to start writing training articles. Has a book coming out in 2014"
                      I had no idea we were being addressed by the voice of a reborn late great dressage icon who started his career as an event rider, albeit having progressed to Advanced rather than Preliminary and then went on to be a Grand Prix rider, master, and trainer.

                      Listen up , COTHers. You are missing a lifetime opportunity.

                      I know I'm new here but hate to see you miss this.

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                      • #51
                        Also, to the man himself. I read that you have trained 14 horses to Grand Prix and it takes you only two years to do so. Were they all Appaloosas or....?
                        Well, if they are appies you just have to get them a book on dressage.

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                        • #52
                          And frozen is indeed the correct descriptor.
                          pace, path, balance, impulsion and ??

                          Don't panic! Ralph Leroy Hill

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                          • #53
                            This is a good example of why I think we need some sort of qualified schooling and certification process in the US for trainers. We need a program that not only trains our instructors/ trainers, but also our riders, barn managers, grooms, etc.
                            Read about my time at the Hannoveraner Verband Breeders Courses:
                            http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2011.html
                            http://blumefarm.com/hannoveranercourse2012.html

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                            • #54
                              Originally posted by abrant View Post
                              Hell, we have some of our own resident charlatans, we don't need to ship them in
                              Alas, doesn't everywhere? Some are just totally over their heads, at best, others I've seen actually can get the work, it just involves a lot of abuse to get there, at worst. I think this may be a case of the former, rather than the latter.

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                              • #55
                                Originally posted by Blume Farm View Post
                                This is a good example of why I think we need some sort of qualified schooling and certification process in the US for trainers. We need a program that not only trains our instructors/ trainers, but also our riders, barn managers, grooms, etc.
                                And a program to train intelligent people to see through charlatans that seem to run rampant in the horse world. But that is another thread altogether!
                                "The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli"

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by NJRider View Post
                                  And a program to train intelligent people to see through charlatans that seem to run rampant in the horse world. But that is another thread altogether!
                                  YES! I am often stumped as to why people are sucked in by charlatans. I would hope that if I was beginning to learn a new sport, a new skill, a new language etc I would do a whole bunch of research before I jumped on anyone's bandwagon. I hesitate to jump on any bandwagon no matter what (except for Carl Hester who I adore).
                                  Last edited by ShannonLee; Dec. 29, 2013, 11:24 PM.

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                                  • #57
                                    I seriously think there must be some underground class or maybe youtube videos teaching budding dressage trainers how to dupe the general public. The local heifer we are burdened with here is brilliant in the sense of how she manipulates people and uses her psycho skills to create the need the them to depend on her.
                                    "The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli"

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                                    • #58
                                      We've removed some posts regarding comments posted elsewhere online by someone sharing this trainer's name. We have not been able to determine if these people are the same, and have found multiple people with this name, so as the comments are quite heinous, we've removed them pending a definitive link between them.

                                      Feel free to share your opinions re: his training philosophy, comments on his websites, etc., but let's try to keep things productive.

                                      Thanks,
                                      Mod 1

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                                      • #59
                                        He is a master of dressage, I have worked with him for 8mths. Great results, light riding. Give him a try before you bash someone who is not here to see it....
                                        Last edited by kellydressage; Dec. 30, 2013, 02:09 AM.

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                                          #60
                                          Mr Peronace,

                                          You could have at least run that through spell check so it wouldn't quite be so clear that it is you.

                                          Edited: Appears the post I'm referencing has been heavily edited
                                          Last edited by abrant; Dec. 30, 2013, 08:40 AM. Reason: make me look less crazy

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