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  • Jentri Stables, the facility at the address Nick lists on his website, got back to me. Nick does not, nor has he ever, worked there. She said he reportedly rode there as a kid with the previous owners. This is so pathetic.

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    • Originally posted by Crockpot
      Why are there 10 pages on this and not much on real abuse and neglect

      http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/news.aspx

      and I have no connection to RMHP but still I'm scratching my head here on why this sort of thing -someone exaggerating their experience- deserves more attention than real abuse and neglecT.

      Maybe put all this energy towards helping those animals that really need it
      There have been several threads on many forums of CoTH regarding abuse cases, not sure what you are getting on about.
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      • Originally posted by Crockpot
        Why are there 10 pages on this and not much on real abuse and neglect

        http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/news.aspx

        and I have no connection to RMHP but still I'm scratching my head here on why this sort of thing -someone exaggerating their experience- deserves more attention than real abuse and neglecT.

        Maybe put all this energy towards helping those animals that really need it

        Besides just exaggerating experience we now know he's flat out lying about things. Publicly. To potential, and likely current clients. That abusive towards people.

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        • I think we all know that abuse of animals does happen

          but abuse of clients, both novice clients and very experienced clients is a culture that seems to pervade the horse world to the very top.

          How many questions, articles and court cases of trainers / owners / sellers / para-professionals have we discussed here

          and how many people seem to shrug and say " they don't call it horse trading for nothing"

          Perhaps this discussion will save one potential client and their horse the frustration
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          • Originally posted by Crockpot
            Why are there 10 pages on this and not much on real abuse and neglect

            http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/news.aspx

            and I have no connection to RMHP but still I'm scratching my head here on why this sort of thing -someone exaggerating their experience- deserves more attention than real abuse and neglecT.

            Maybe put all this energy towards helping those animals that really need it
            Also, "people do not know what they do not know". How do we know his methods are not abusive, so far just have the testimonies of some star struck novices as there is no video evidence of his riding or training methods. But even if for the sake of argument he is just a harmless little man living the dream, there is a trickle down effect of the lack of education and knowledge...and this can enable abuse because of lack of knowledge. Only the horse owners can speak up for their horses and time and time again when suckered into a relationship with a charlatan they do not=abuse.
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            • Abuse of clients, how funny! While it can happen, a client, a person, has a choice, and independent free will. An animal being abused or harshly trained has no voice and no free will and can not escape their situation.

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              • Besides just exaggerating experience we now know he's flat out lying about things. Publicly. To potential, and likely current clients. That abusive towards people.

                Nah. I doubt too many reading here would be sucked in by this

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                • Originally posted by Countrywood View Post
                  Abuse of clients, how funny! While it can happen, a client, a person, has a choice, and independent free will. An animal being abused or harshly trained has no voice and no free will and can not escape their situation.
                  Start a new thread.....there is nothing wrong with CoTHers giving the heads up to those who don't want to waste their money!
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                  • Originally posted by alternate_universe View Post
                    Jentri Stables, the facility at the address Nick lists on his website, got back to me. Nick does not, nor has he ever, worked there. She said he reportedly rode there as a kid with the previous owners. This is so pathetic.
                    Wow, he doesn't even BOARD there?
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                    • Originally posted by vxf111 View Post
                      Wow, he doesn't even BOARD there?
                      Nope.

                      I did get his home address though. He lives about 20 minutes from there... And not at a horse farm. He has to know who they are.

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                      • Original Poster

                        Just because you are concerned about behavior like this doesn't mean you don't have the capacity to also care about situations that involve the abuse of horses. I believe it is possible to be against abuse and also against liars? Right?

                        And this is aside from the fact that it is largely those that do not have a toolbox built up over years of learning that resort to the worst "training" tactics.

                        As someone pointed out, maybe something that really needed to be addressed in the industry is those that "shrug" and turn away from situations like this. I am protected by the FTC when I buy anything from candy bars to light bulbs but somehow when it comes to spending $$$$ on the care and training of a large, expensive, dangerous animal it should be a free for all of whatever it takes to get my money?

                        I think the saddest thing, and I've seen it happen here locally, is that you have a solid basic instructor getting business pulled away because they refuse to lie about who they are. I mean, who wants to learn things the right way when a klassical master can teach you to levade tomorrow? By turning our backs we're basically saying that solid beginner instruction is not important in this country and *this* is maybe why we have a problem.

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                        • "I think the saddest thing, and I've seen it happen here locally, is that you have a solid basic instructor getting business pulled away because they refuse to lie about who they are. I mean, who wants to learn things the right way when a klassical master can teach you to levade tomorrow? By turning our backs we're basically saying that solid beginner instruction is not important in this country and *this* is maybe why we have a problem."

                          Love this.

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                          • Four years ago I was a complete newbie to dressage. I have been riding my entire life but took up dressage when I got my horse and decided I wanted to learn more. Even though I am very very aware of the sometimes pretty darn questionable antics of people in the horse business, I have to confess that dressage has such a unique aura about it that it would be easy to be misled. The very good things about dressage done well - the results you can get with the horse and the special things you really can do - are easily perverted by the lesser lights of the discipline.

                            The one thing I DO know now, without a doubt, is that it takes a lot of really hard work to get better at dressage. So anybody that promises quick results and encourages people to jump up the levels is not a practitioner of the "Art", as this character likes to fancy himself. Nope, they're a poser!

                            Consumer Reports tries to protect their target market from every shyster in the book. I think it's admirable that people do the same on COTH as well - including outing people who abuse horses too. It's all part of the same effort and I really appreciate it.

                            I don't think COTH will ever run out of material!

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                            • You looked up his home address?
                              That is so creepy!

                              And now you are saying he is a horse abuser? Peronace is the lightest rider I have ever seen.
                              How about you people stop hiding behind your screen names and put your real names down so we can see what you have all done, and how all of you ride? Peronace has answered your questions, his pictures are public, his pictures show a forward horse looking beautiful. Lets see what all of you have done. I no you all are jealous because I know none of you can ride like the master! He has invited you to his clinics let's see what you can do seeing how you all wanna make yourselves with inflated egos out to be superior

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                              • Believing that it is inappropriate, unprofessional, and potentially dangerous for a person to represent himself as a Classical Dressage Master when he is not does not mean that one doesn't care about horse abuse. Also, I'm pretty sure there are threads in Off Course about horse abuse with WAY more than 11 pages.

                                And, it's always kind of entertaining when said charlatans and their houseguests come here and try to sell their BS to those that know better.

                                I wonder how the winner of Chevy's Cup would feel about this situation?

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                                • kellydressage perhaps you can clear this up since you seem to know him quite well ... Why does he have JenTri Stables' address listed on his website when he is not affiliated with them?

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                                  • Put your real names down and stop hiding behind a screen name.
                                    Nothing but jealous cowards!!

                                    Lets see all of you put up some pictures so we can pick out a little things and critique it and start message board threads.
                                    You all are hate him so much but yet you keep talking about him?

                                    Sensationally jealous and sensationally pathetic each and everyone of you

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                                    • Sorry, I'm hijacking the thread for a brief moment! But I've read some good books too and can answer Ace's question!!! (does that make me a Master?)

                                      Originally posted by Ace View Post
                                      I want to know what this "leading by silk reins" thing is all about.


                                      I have read that the german Willi Schultheis, when older, presented horses on a silk thread. (can't find picture of that)

                                      If you look at pictures of the Cadre Noir de Saumur, the purple or white snaffle reins are of silk, coming from De la Bigue era.

                                      Go on with the train wreck.
                                      ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                                      Originally posted by LauraKY
                                      I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
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                                      • Its New Years Eve and I have nothing to do until tonight all my horses are fed and my stalls are clean. I will defend the master to my last breath, especially when none of you will put your real name down or show anyone of us what you have really done to compare your riding to his. You won't do this because you know damn well that he is a genius he rides beautifully and he is a modern master!
                                        All of you probably yank your horse's mouth use super long Spurs chasing ribbons. Then some judge in some booth somewhere says you know what you're doing so you carry on thinking that you do meanwhile your horse doesnt hold a candle to anything the Masters done!
                                        Peronace has advised me not to waste my time with you idiots, but I choose to call each and everyone of you out. You pick this jealous fight and now you've got it you called down the Thunder now you got it! Lets see who your real names are and let's see pictures of your real riding.
                                        Put up or shut up!!!!

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                                        • Originally posted by kellydressage View Post
                                          Its New Years Eve and I have nothing to do until tonight all my horses are fed and my stalls are clean. I will defend the master to my last breath, especially when none of you will put your real name down or show anyone of us what you have really done to compare your riding to his. You won't do this because you know damn well that he is a genius he rides beautifully and he is a modern master!
                                          All of you probably yank your horse's mouth use super long Spurs chasing ribbons. Then some judge in some booth somewhere says you know what you're doing so you carry on thinking that you do meanwhile your horse doesnt hold a candle to anything the Masters done!
                                          Peronace has advised me not to waste my time with you idiots, but I choose to call each and everyone of you out. You pick this jealous fight and now you've got it you called down the Thunder now you got it! Lets see who your real names are and let's see pictures of your real riding.
                                          Put up or shut up!!!!
                                          COTH people, is this really happening?
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                                          Originally posted by LauraKY
                                          I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
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