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What on Earth!? Outgrowing Saddles Left & Right

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  • #21
    Wow! Thanks for the link - those are great prices for a wide variety of nice saddles.


    • Original Poster

      Tried multiple adjustable saddles today. None perfect. Wide back and high withers.

      Another bump we seem to run up against is I'm 5'8, 112 lbs, flat as a pancake and long from hip to thigh. My knee usually hangs off the roll just a bit, but big blocks make me feel claustrophobic. Beginning to wonder who is harder to fit, me or the mare.

      Where's a fairy godmother when you need one?


      • #23
        Kent and Masters, Thorowgood and Fairfax all have adjustable gullet systems. They are wool flocked and the first two models I mentioned have re-positional billets and velcro blocks. They come in models that have a low profile for the cob or broadbacked horse such as many Morgans and a standard type panel and a model for high withers and a deeper front panel. They offer a range of possibilities for the changing horse. You can read more about them at www.trumbullmtn.com. We often recommend them for a developing horse as they allow a lot of options for growth.
        Jay McGarry
        sms trained saddle fitter


        • #24
          Originally posted by RiderInTheRain View Post
          sevensprings - any advice on good treeless dressage saddles? The only one I've ever ridden in was an Ansur and I was not a fan. It felt very bulky.
          Ansur is the one I was thinking of. Perhaps they have different models? There's also a Freeform that people rave about but it's funny looking. Might be ok while your horse is still changing shape.


          • #25
            Originally posted by Caps1 View Post
            Where's a fairy godmother when you need one?
            Do you have access to saddle fitters, various saddle reps?

            You can always remove the blocks if saddle fits otherwise, or have the blocks altered - though you do want the assistance of someone that is "good" at this sort of thing, when sorting out alterations.

            You can also look into saddle leasing/rentals, e.g., Equestrian Imports offers this range of saddles - it's not an ideal solution but may allow you access to a series of saddles that actually fit you & the horse during the time that you are able to use them (ie until horse changes again).
            (other companies offer a similar program, fees usually run $150 - $200/month, some will allow you to apply a rental fee towards the purchase should you decide to buy a particular saddle).


            • #26
              Most saddles can be ordered with a longer/more fwd. flap and/or a modified block; some companies charge more for this, and some don't. You can often find used saddles with the modified flap option. If the block on a particular saddle doesn't suit, they can often be modified or even removed completely by a good saddler/fitter.
              Kitt Hazelton
              Saddle Fitter


              • #27
                Originally posted by Caps1 View Post
                Tried multiple adjustable saddles today. None perfect. Wide back and high withers.

                Another bump we seem to run up against is I'm 5'8, 112 lbs, flat as a pancake and long from hip to thigh. My knee usually hangs off the roll just a bit, but big blocks make me feel claustrophobic. Beginning to wonder who is harder to fit, me or the mare.

                Where's a fairy godmother when you need one?
                Perhaps consider a Hulsebos or a Ludomar (dressage, NOT the alta escuela, unless of course that floats your boat). Both have flaps that are 17" standard, offer models with minimal blocks, and both have models that suit high withers and wide backs. A flatter back front to back might prefer the Hulsebos over Ludomar. If your horse has a quite curvy back front to back, perhaps even consider an older County WB. Would also suit your conformation, and has a much narrower twist than the Ludomar or Hulsebos which tend to be wide in most models.
                Being terrible at something is the first step to being truly great at it. Struggle is the evidence of progress.


                • Original Poster

                  All of the saddle suggestions have been tack porn to me! I think I will put a few on my short list and see what her back looks like in a month.

                  I am at a very mixed barn (Parelli, Reining, Eventing, Dressage) and there are only a handful of us that ride dressage out of about 75 patrons so saddle opinions are scarce.

                  We are in SE Alabama not too far from the FL line, but getting a saddle fitter out will cost plenty of $. I think equestrian imports and leasing will be the best option for us until we can get to the "Big Girl" saddle phase.


                  • #29
                    Tekna saddles are also a good choice if you don't mind a synthetic saddle.

                    From my understanding of what the saddle fitter told me is that the tree is designed to be changed with a UV light thus making it easier to mould to the horses shape.

                    Removable knee blocks on both dressage models. And they're only about $800 brand new.
                    Not my circus, not my monkeys!


                    • #30
                      My Stubbens do a really good job with the shape changing my guy does/did. The trees flex
                      Just enough to work when it's fit and when he's not. When he's fit I do use a Thinline under it, which doesn't fit when he is fit.

                      I only had to buy three saddles for him from when I broke him out at 3 (no 'real' riding that year) to now, 8yo.

                      I'm 5'5" with a 33" inseam and the Stubbens all seem to fit my leg well.


                      • #31
                        You should also look at the older Ortho-flex saddles. They have flexible panels that have more adjustability than just making the tree wider or narrower.

                        There is a very attractively priced used one at Pelham Saddlery right now.

                        "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller