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  • Cesar Parra again?

    From Dressage news.com (but was also referred to in eurodressage)

    Mikala Gundersen would not talk about whether My Lady, a 13-year-old Danish Warmblood mare (Michellino x Itterstern), was still affected by the Grand Prix performance Thursday that suffered some “disturbance” in the warm up.
    My Lady, she said, “does not have a lot of experience” and became “very upset… she was terrified” by the warm up of another horse that she would not identify.
    But dressage-news.com witnessed the horse and rider as Van the Man ridden by Cesar Parra of the United States. The pair received a verbal warning from the CDI steward. The pair did not compete in the Freestyle but are scheduled for the Grand Prix Special Saturday.
    “I felt sorry for her having to go through a little drama before going into ring,” she said, “so she lost her confidence.”


    Anyony know what happened?

  • #2
    Isn't Mikala Gunderson the rider Parra's previous sponsor went to when she pulled all her horses out of his barn?

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    • #3
      http://www.eurodressage.com/equestri...-separate-ways

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      • #4
        what does these twos past relationship have anything to do with a certain rider getting verbal reprimand from the steward?

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        • #5
          So the idea is that Parra was 'harassing' My Lady and Gunderson in the warm up with the intention of freaking the horse out?

          I know that Parra has a history and that a lot of horses (and I have a Michellino mare myself... wackadoodle is a term used often around here... ) competing in the ULs have a little bit extra wackadoodle in them... but it seems like they are stretching a little bit...

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          • #6
            What do you think ?http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=20315
            Page down for a picture of another incident.

            There does not seem to be any doubt that CP is a nasty piece of work.
            ... _. ._ .._. .._

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            • #7
              I could care less about Cesar Para. It looks like Mikala handled herself with class.
              Last edited by Liz; Mar. 16, 2013, 04:47 PM. Reason: spelling brain fart

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              • #8
                This from euro-dressage:
                “I think My Lady is still a little bit green so gets distracted,” she said, “I just have to go out there and play with the big boys.”
                ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                Originally posted by LauraKY
                I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
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                • #9
                  It's a shame when the "big boys" practise gamesmanship. (or that their horses are so afraid of them that they can't keep it together)
                  ... _. ._ .._. .._

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                    It's a shame when the "big boys" practise gamesmanship. (or that their horses are so afraid of them that they can't keep it together)
                    The young lady had trouble keeping it together as well it seems.

                    A little DQ drama?
                    ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                    Originally posted by LauraKY
                    I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
                    HORSING mobile training app

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                    • #11
                      A little DQ drama?
                      most likely it was a little dq drama only it was parra who was the dq The td gave a warning so there must be something to it right?
                      Humans don’t mind duress, in fact they thrive on it. What they mind is not feeling necessary. –Sebastian Junger

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                      • #12
                        I know of another person, ompletely reliable source, who chose not to get involved with CP, and then was subject to a game of chicken in the warm up ring. Fortunately, this rider and horse didn't scare easily, but I do believe you are either with him or against him. A nasty piece of work indeed...

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                        • #13
                          You don't give warnings for merely causing "DQ drama".One of the favourite warm up ring intimidations is to drive your stallion/gelding right up the backside of a young mare.
                          ... _. ._ .._. .._

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                          • #14
                            The DQ drama is here...

                            Because visibly Mikala Gunderson got over it:
                            “I think My Lady is still a little bit green so gets distracted,” she said, “I just have to go out there and play with the big boys.”
                            ~ Enjoying some guac and boxed wine at the Blue Saddle inn. ~

                            Originally posted by LauraKY
                            I'm sorry, but this has "eau de hoarder" smell all over it.
                            HORSING mobile training app

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                              You don't give warnings for merely causing "DQ drama".One of the favourite warm up ring intimidations is to drive your stallion/gelding right up the backside of a young mare.
                              I had a stallion actually mount my mare (and I) in the warmup at Foxcroft
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                              • #16
                                It is a shame that Mikala didn't have the ride she was expecting...but that's horses isn't it?....to be fair, I was observing the warm up and there was no verbal warning from the steward, and certainly there was no intentional behavior from Cesar Parra: the steward simply walked over and placed herself between the two horses. Mikala seemed to be having difficulty with her mare prior to this "incident", riding the horse with the chin to the chest. It seems like dressage news is just trying to stir up drama...

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                                • #17
                                  Yes I'd rather have some objective observations of what happened than what we have seen on this thread- even though I'm not a fan of Cp

                                  It seems there is some history between the parties and that can work both ways.

                                  Not a fan of CP but still won't join a pile on without more facts.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by carolprudm View Post
                                      I had a stallion actually mount my mare (and I) in the warmup at Foxcroft
                                      Ummmmmm. Wow.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                                        What do you think ?http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=20315
                                        Page down for a picture of another incident.
                                        Another incident ? We haven't found out what the first one was.

                                        The picture you're referring to doesn't show much. The area looks very crowded, with horses passing between a tractor and a fence, and a woman on the ground by the tractor. It's impossible to accurately tell what's going on.

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