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  • Originally posted by MysticOakRanch View Post
    I started my dressage journey on a Morgan - we showed in California (tough circuit), and he had a decent lengthening - took him to State Championships and was in the top 10 at 1st level. Showed another little Morgan who was totally park bred, and he had the most awesome lengthenings - unfortunately, he developed early cataracts and kind of went half-blind insane. He also had a fantabulous canter - I showed him a few times and cliniced with an S judge several times - he scored great other then his half-blind, insane horse spooks I've seen several other people show Morgans in dressage and eventing with great success.

    I am not sure I understand your posts, to be honest, so I may be taking them the wrong way, and if so, accept my apology in advance. But what exactly do you consider a "dressage horse"? I consider any breed with 3 decent gaits, a good brain, and reasonable conformation to have dressage potential. That includes some (not all) Warmbloods, some (not all) Friesians, some (not all) Morgans, some (not all) Arabians, some (not all) Tbreds, some (not all) crosses, some (not all) you get the picture...

    OK, my advice to everyone - go ride your horses! We are entering a very ugly storm series (well, ugly by Cali standards) - lucky to get a ride in today before it really hit - minor change in direction though - my horse was very tense, and decided to use passage as an evasion - so we worked on passage If you're going to evade with something hard, then darn well, you're going to do it well! What does that have to do with western dressage - nothing
    It's wet and cold over here. I'm inclined to find out whether I can pull my carhartts over my riding boots -I don't have paddock boots -because I am quite the winter wuss, but I must ride!

    Paula
    He is total garbage! Quick! Hide him on my trailer (Petstorejunkie).

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    • Here's my take, for what it's worth. I have trained a lot of young dressage prospects in my western saddle, and a plain snaffle with no cavesson, or one not very tight. Whatever. My point is, if I get a horse far enough in my western saddle to be a descent dressage horse prospect, lets say, 2nd or 3rd level, and I feel I do a pretty good job of it, I would just as well show up in britches and boots and a dressage saddle at a regular dressage show and have my training and riding judged like everyone else. What's the point of proving to someone I did it in a western saddle? A good cavalry man wouldn't have a problem with it. I would say to my western dressage friends, just buck up, buy the tack and go show like every one else does in dressage. At some point you might as well.

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      • Speaking of barrel racing (nods to Alicen, Pocket Pony, and others) - anyone here remember the great team of Scamper and Charmayne James?

        http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_...?v=SjUHg_PviBw

        And here they are winning bridleless! (Kinda sorta cruising near the general outskirts of topictown)

        http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_...eature=related

        I adored that great horse. He still takes my breath away.

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        • Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post
          In the infinite wisdom I have gleaned from over ten years of posting on COTH...

          A thread tends to derail and move to discussions of food, beverage, and the weather once all useful or productive discussion has subsided. In other words, when one side or the other feels like banging one's own head against a wall, or as though we're talking in circles - we move to more productive discussions, like what kind of BBQ sauce goes with what beer, and what a Beer N' BBQ dressage test would look like.

          Perhaps:

          A: Enter, working trot without spilling beer
          X: Halt, swig. Proceed working trot
          C: Track left (beer should be in right hand)
          E: Half circle left 20m
          B: Halt. Eat rib, finish and replenish beer from B
          Proceed at trot, half circle left 10m to X, switching beer hands at X
          X to E, half circle 10m
          E: Working canter right lead
          M to F: lengthen stride in canter, throw beer can into trash at B
          A: Working trot
          K: Walk
          V: Grab beer & rib
          E-M: Free walk, long swig
          C: Working trot
          H: Working canter
          SXP: Change of direction, simple change of lead and beer hand at X
          A: Down centerline
          L: Working trot
          G: Halt, swig. Throw beer can at judge. +10 if you don't miss.
          -2 for each occurrence of spillage.

          TA DA!
          This is going into my personal COTH Hall of Fame archive!!!!!

          You might want to consider permitting a regional "flavor" to the event. For folks from Scandinavian countries you could add a few shots of aqavit. In Germany, schnapps. In Great Britain, scotch. In the U.S., bourbon (or sour mash). Faults are awarded for falling off the horse before the test is complete.

          The Chinese have "Drunken Boxing." Why can't we have "Drunken Dressage."

          G.
          Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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          • Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post
            In the infinite wisdom I have gleaned from over ten years of posting on COTH...

            A thread tends to derail and move to discussions of food, beverage, and the weather once all useful or productive discussion has subsided. In other words, when one side or the other feels like banging one's own head against a wall, or as though we're talking in circles - we move to more productive discussions, like what kind of BBQ sauce goes with what beer, and what a Beer N' BBQ dressage test would look like.

            Perhaps:

            A: Enter, working trot without spilling beer
            X: Halt, swig. Proceed working trot
            C: Track left (beer should be in right hand)
            E: Half circle left 20m
            B: Halt. Eat rib, finish and replenish beer from B
            Proceed at trot, half circle left 10m to X, switching beer hands at X
            X to E, half circle 10m
            E: Working canter right lead
            M to F: lengthen stride in canter, throw beer can into trash at B
            A: Working trot
            K: Walk
            V: Grab beer & rib
            E-M: Free walk, long swig
            C: Working trot
            H: Working canter
            SXP: Change of direction, simple change of lead and beer hand at X
            A: Down centerline
            L: Working trot
            G: Halt, swig. Throw beer can at judge. +10 if you don't miss.
            -2 for each occurrence of spillage.

            TA DA!
            If the whole cosmic purpose of this thread was to produce this, then we can clearly say it's a success. Funniest thing I've read all week.
            "Aye God, Woodrow..."

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            • BEER N' BBQ dressage test

              Vegetarians can substitute corn smeared with onion jam.

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              • We're weaving drunkenly towards "White Trash Dressage"!

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                • Originally posted by ThreeFigs View Post
                  We're weaving drunkenly towards "White Trash Dressage"!
                  And this is a problem because...???????

                  G.
                  Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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                  • Aw, hell, I'm looking forward to it! Beer, anyone?

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                    • I think the horse should also get to have a beer.

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                      • Originally posted by RedmondDressage View Post
                        This conversation is reminding me of what it's like to discuss evolution with an evangelical Christian. You just run in circles and no matter how logical an argument you might make they interpret it in the most incomprehensible way. Look, the bottom line is this. You can do whatever you want in your backyard, we can all agree on that. But the rules is the rules, if you want to compete at a recognized show you need to follow them. If you don't want to follow them you don't get to compete. It's really not up for discussion.

                        Since the thread was started to comment on Western Dressage. And there are now, a few, associations promoting western dressage. And you CAN ride Western Dressage at Morgan shows. I don't think it's crazy to make the mental leap that proponents of Western Dressage would like to make it a USEF approved discipline. Since reining made it into the FEI, I don't really see that it is crazy for Western Dressage proponents to work along at a goal of recognition for their discipline. In fact, they are well on their way.
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                        • Originally posted by ThreeFigs View Post
                          We're weaving drunkenly towards "White Trash Dressage"!
                          I am shaving NO FEAR into Chip's hip

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                          • Originally posted by katarine View Post
                            I am shaving NO FEAR into Chip's hip
                            nah I think it should be a Calvin peeing on a WB LMAO~
                            "As soon as you're born you start dyin'
                            So you might as well have a good time"

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                            • LOL!n Maybe I can teach him to dip, too!

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                              • I love the Beekman Boys...
                                “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.” Stephen R. Covey

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                                • Originally posted by Heinz 57 View Post
                                  In the infinite wisdom I have gleaned from over ten years of posting on COTH...

                                  A thread tends to derail and move to discussions of food, beverage, and the weather once all useful or productive discussion has subsided. In other words, when one side or the other feels like banging one's own head against a wall, or as though we're talking in circles - we move to more productive discussions, like what kind of BBQ sauce goes with what beer, and what a Beer N' BBQ dressage test would look like.

                                  Perhaps:

                                  A: Enter, working trot without spilling beer
                                  X: Halt, swig. Proceed working trot
                                  C: Track left (beer should be in right hand)
                                  E: Half circle left 20m
                                  B: Halt. Eat rib, finish and replenish beer from B
                                  Proceed at trot, half circle left 10m to X, switching beer hands at X
                                  X to E, half circle 10m
                                  E: Working canter right lead
                                  M to F: lengthen stride in canter, throw beer can into trash at B
                                  A: Working trot
                                  K: Walk
                                  V: Grab beer & rib
                                  E-M: Free walk, long swig
                                  C: Working trot
                                  H: Working canter
                                  SXP: Change of direction, simple change of lead and beer hand at X
                                  A: Down centerline
                                  L: Working trot
                                  G: Halt, swig. Throw beer can at judge. +10 if you don't miss.
                                  -2 for each occurrence of spillage.

                                  TA DA!
                                  You must have been at some of our Saddlebred shows! A bit different (no BBQ), but beer definitely involved. And maybe a double co-efficient for remounting at X.
                                  Groom to trainer: "Where's the glamour? You promised me glamour!"

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                                  • Originally posted by CFFarm View Post
                                    You must have been at some of our Saddlebred shows! A bit different (no BBQ), but beer definitely involved. And maybe a double co-efficient for remounting at X.
                                    I would love to see the Beer & BBQ dressage test offered at someone's schooling show - but only if you video it and report back.

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                                    • Oooooh, I think this is a challenge for 2013 - who will be the first!!!???
                                      "A horse's face always conveys clearly whether it is loved by its owner or simply used." - Anja Beran

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                                      • Oh, and we need rules - can you have a bottle or can? And what kind of ribs? Can we wear bibs so that we don't get out coats and stockties dirty? Oh, wait, I see throw beer "can" at judge - that is probably good, otherwise a bottle may do some damage. Do we need to specify how far the judge will be sitting from the rail? Otherwise some may have an unfair advantage by placing the judge AT C.
                                        "A horse's face always conveys clearly whether it is loved by its owner or simply used." - Anja Beran

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                                        • Definately a good reason to really learn an Independent Seat. Ribs in one hand, beer in the other. Ride off your seat .

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