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What would you do? Turn out or not? Update post 22

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    Good news! I managed to get an appointment for Wednesday. The original shoulder specialist has some sort of emergency and wasn't making appointments for the remainder of December. Luckily, there is another shoulder guy in the same medical group, and he is more available.
    Last edited by Bristol Bay; Dec. 5, 2012, 11:51 PM.
    A helmet saved my life.

    2017 goal: learn to ride like TheHorseProblem, er, a barn rat!


    • Original Poster

      I finally saw the doctor, and he informed me that I have a torn rotator cuff and will need to have to repaired.

      A helmet saved my life.

      2017 goal: learn to ride like TheHorseProblem, er, a barn rat!


      • #23
        Do your PT!

        I feel your pain. I have had a rotator cuff repair in both shoulders. The second tear was small, and I could have opted out of surgery, but the results on my first large tear were so fabulous that I opted to have the surgery. The main problem with the second tear was that I could not sleep on my left side--which is not a good thing when you have other problems that don't allow you to sleep on the right side.

        After both surgeries I was in a sling for 8 weeks which was a nuisance, and in PT for 8 weeks which was even more of a nuisance, but it was worth it in the end. Do not neglect your PT--it really helps. Also make sure to keep the muscles in your other shoulder strong so that you don't get tendonitis in that shoulder while you are recovering from the RC surgery. It seems counterintuitive to work the muscles in the other arm that are already being overworked--but it is the biceps, triceps and deltoids that need to be strengthened so that they all work to share the load.

        Good luck. My surgeon also did a biceps tenodesis and a general cleanup of the cartilege and arthritis changes in both shoulders. You may want to ask about that since apparently it gives better results over the long term since it creates space in the shoulder.
        "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" ~Friedrich Schiller


        • Original Poster

          Thanks for sharing, EH. I have biceps tendon issues as well, so maybe I can get it all tidied up.

          I thought I had decided to keep him around, but the reality just this week of being unable to ride or really hand walk (I have been doing it on a very limited basis) just underscores how helpless I will be to care for him, and how totally dependent on others I will be.

          I would love for him to have the free training, but can I deal with putting him in the care of people who aren't paying to ride him and whom I am not paying to care for him, no matter how well-meaning they are?
          A helmet saved my life.

          2017 goal: learn to ride like TheHorseProblem, er, a barn rat!


          • #25
            I second the PT. I had rotator cuff issues that were finally healed due to building up the muscles protecting the cuff. Most of us sit too much which shortens up the muscles in the front of our bodies and lengthens those in the back. The PT also gave me some small and effective arm lifting exercises which I did on a weight bench. It took a couple months, but the problem never recurred.


            • #26
              Originally posted by Bristol Bay View Post
              I live in an urban area, so him being in "pasture" would mean no riding. He would have the winter off plus.

              I know I have tendinitis of the biceps tendon, but I think now that the rotator cuff is involved. I have good range of motion, it just hurts like heck after two days of riding. I took a bad fall seven years ago and dislocated that shoulder, so this latest is probably a result of that injury. I am in my mid-fifties.

              I had an appointment to see the shoulder guy today, but yesterday his office called and cancelled. It may be a few more WEEKS before I even know the results of the MRI I had before Thanksgiving.

              I had tendinitis really bad once before, and that doctor recommended 6 months of no riding. My horse at that time was also injured so it was less complicated. So I am actually hoping that I will need surgery to repair it and be done with it.
              That is a bunch of B-S on their part. I would look for another shoulder guy or start raising some serious hell. That kind of behavior is unacceptable, particularly given how long it has been since you had the MRI.


              • #27
                If you have plans to sell the horse in the next few years then I would keep him in work if it is not a stretch financially. Not because it will increase his value but it is just best for the horse - gives him more options for a next owner.

                I guess your rider would not be riding at a time that is condusive to helping with the care? Although they should be able to clean a stall and fill water. But OTOH, free training with a good rider should not be repaid with the expectation of also caring for the horse. Having a good rider to bring your horse along gratis is pretty nice.

                So, if money is no issue maybe you could give a bit to another boarder to also look out for your horse if you are not in a full board situation.


                • Original Poster

                  Originally posted by shall View Post
                  I second the PT. I had rotator cuff issues that were finally healed due to building up the muscles protecting the cuff. Most of us sit too much which shortens up the muscles in the front of our bodies and lengthens those in the back. The PT also gave me some small and effective arm lifting exercises which I did on a weight bench. It took a couple months, but the problem never recurred.
                  Was yours torn or just frayed?

                  I did a search for rotator cuff exercises, and the results explained why the recent round of PT made it feel so much worse. I was doing PT for the biceps tendon, and some of those exercises should never be done if you've got a torn RC.

                  Horse board includes feeding and cleaning, they just don't feed him enough of the appropriate feed, so his care also includes giving him another meal, basically.

                  It just hit home yesterday because I was trying to hand walk with him on my left. There was a back hoe up on the side of the cliff, defying gravity, and also a new boarder brought in two mules. So my horse was all WTF kind of horse is that!! He got all bug-eyed and puffed up, and I realized I can't even do THAT.

                  The mules are cool, by the way. I haven't met the owner yet, but supposedly one of them is 2nd level.

                  Anyway, I'll be talking today to the gal who will be riding him. (She's a college student who will be going home for the rest of the month returning in January, which is why I am sort of panicking now.)
                  A helmet saved my life.

                  2017 goal: learn to ride like TheHorseProblem, er, a barn rat!