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Edward Allen Buck's Latest Lawsuit Hits a Snag.

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    #21
    Originally posted by betonbill View Post
    Agree with much of the above, but at the same time it doesn't hurt to rattle the cage of such an august body as the AQHA.

    If only one could actually serve them with legal papers that made some sort of sense...

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      #22
      Originally posted by MyssMyst View Post
      It is 6am my time, and I haven't had any caffeine. Please tell me this is like The Onion and that Buck running for pres is one big joke?

      He was actually running in 2007, however he did sue The Predient in 2011 (scroll down just a bit) http://dockets.justia.com/search?q=Edward+Allen+Buck as well as a judge and several members of the sherriffs dept. in Utah.

      I love the onion! Alas, this is in no way similar (except for the absurdity).

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      • #23
        Right, many of the people seem to have been invited to the group without knowing anything about spirithorse. He also has this http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sympat...24806014204767

        including I am exasperated because folks will not give me an opportunity to demonstrate my knowledge in clinics.
        Questions.
        Why is it that folks only want to go to clinics of well known clinicians, riders, trainers?
        Do folks really believe that these elite are the only knowledgable ones?
        And more importantly, why would one go to a clinic that the presenter refuses to learn anything new, in other words, the presenter's word is written in stone?
        What has happened to seeking out knowledge, and in the horse world, why not seek out knowledge from experienced unknowns who just might have acquired some knowledge from the horses?


        Don't blame me....I was stuck in the house for 2 days while having new flooring installed and was bored
        I wasn't always a Smurf
        Penmerryl Sophie RIDSH
        "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
        The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by betonbill View Post
          Agree with much of the above, but at the same time it doesn't hurt to rattle the cage of such an august body as the AQHA.
          Originally posted by skydy View Post
          If only one could actually serve them with legal papers that made some sort of sense...
          If only he could afford to serve any subpoena of any quality to the AQHA at all.

          This guy must look like a fly buzzing around the 1,000 lb. AQHA. It is a highly evolved organism with a tail and squiggy skin that can brush off this fly with a minimum of effort.
          The armchair saddler
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          • #25
            Here in California, we call 'em "vexatious litigants," and you can move to have someone "declared" vexatious (if they've filed more than certain number of suits within a certain time period, etc., ) and cut 'em off at the knees in terms of filing any more suits. Being "vexatious" and representing oneself in propria persona seem to run hand-in-hand. The firm where I work has several cases in which the plaintiffs are representing themselves, and they are easily the most frustrating matters to work on. In some cases, the pro per plaintiffs can get filing and other fees waived, and in some instances, the sheriff will serve their documents at no charge.

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            • #26
              They have a remedy in the UK for this sort of perverse use of the system. They charge the costs against the pervert. Cuts out ALL the stupidity.
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              • #27
                Here we can make application to have a statement of claim struck out based on 'abuse of process" or 'frivolous and vexatious " claims.

                These are used when litigant has a history of whacky litigation.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by carolprudm View Post
                  Right, many of the people seem to have been invited to the group without knowing anything about spirithorse. He also has this http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sympat...24806014204767

                  including [h=5]I am exasperated because folks will not give me an opportunity to demonstrate my knowledge in clinics.
                  Questions.
                  Why is it that folks only want to go to clinics of well known clinicians, riders, trainers?
                  Do folks really believe that these elite are the only knowledgable ones?
                  And more importantly, why would one go to a clinic that the presenter refuses to learn anything new, in other words, the presenter's word is written in stone?
                  What has happened to seeking out knowledge, and in the horse world, why not seek out knowledge from experienced unknowns who just might have acquired some knowledge from the horses?
                  [
                  Why not? Oh maybe because of the criminal record, the awful videos of Mr . Buck "riding dressage" and "teaching", maybe the plethora of bizarre lawsuits, who knows? I'm sure he just can't understand it!

                  ETA Perhaps his campaign to be elected president of the U.S. in 2007 puts folks off a bit as well..
                  Last edited by skydy; Nov. 15, 2012, 04:09 PM. Reason: To Add

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by skydy View Post
                    Why not? Oh maybe because of the criminal record, the awful videos of Mr . Buck "riding dressage" and "teaching", maybe the plethora of bizarre lawsuits, who knows? I'm sure he just can't understand it!

                    ETA Perhaps his campaign to be elected president of the U.S. in 2007 puts folks off a bit as well..
                    Sigh, I once offered a DVD of "What i have learned NOT to do in 50+ years of riding" but no one took me up on that either. Y'all just don't know what you are missing.

                    ETA:The really horrible youtube videos have been marked private
                    I wasn't always a Smurf
                    Penmerryl Sophie RIDSH
                    "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
                    The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

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                    • #30
                      for you arrogant and selfrighteous folks who 'hide' you real identity.
                      The two criminal cases against me could be easily cleared up if I had a Federal Grand Jury because I do have the physical evidence that proves violations of due process and a few other criminal acts by the State.
                      As for me running for President....well at least I had the guts to write put into print viable solutions.
                      As for my law suits here in Utah.........the cases were and are predicated upon evidence. If you take the time to actually read the cases you will see that rulings were issued in violation of the actual laws presented. In fact, my best friend who is a law professor even stated to me that he was dumb founded on the rulings.
                      So you can continue your slamming me all you want, but it clearly shows your ignorance.

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                      • #31
                        I wasn't always a Smurf
                        Penmerryl Sophie RIDSH
                        "I ain't as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was"
                        The ignore list is my friend. It takes 2 to argue.

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                            #33
                            Originally posted by dragonharte8 View Post
                            for you arrogant and selfrighteous folks who 'hide' you real identity.
                            The two criminal cases against me could be easily cleared up if I had a Federal Grand Jury because I do have the physical evidence that proves violations of due process and a few other criminal acts by the State.
                            As for me running for President....well at least I had the guts to write put into print viable solutions.
                            As for my law suits here in Utah.........the cases were and are predicated upon evidence. If you take the time to actually read the cases you will see that rulings were issued in violation of the actual laws presented. In fact, my best friend who is a law professor even stated to me that he was dumb founded on the rulings.
                            So you can continue your slamming me all you want, but it clearly shows your ignorance.
                            Unfortunately, your insistence that you were improperly convicted of theft, and that there is a conspiracy against you which results in your losing your many lawsuits, does absolutely nothing to help your credibility. If your "best friend" is a law professor I'm sure he could have helped you, if there was any chance of you having a case. And yes, I have read the cases. Doesn't look as if you had a leg to stand on IMHO.

                            As for running for president, a criminal conviction for theft , as an adult ,rather puts people off and takes you out of the running, even if you have impeccable educational credentials and experience in government and/or business (neither of which you seem to possess). Did that fact not cross your mind? Not even an inkling?

                            I did not just fall off the turnip truck and neither did the other folks on this BB. I suggest you take your conspiracy theories about the court system to a BB where people are not so well educated. We have read your lawsuit (postponed for lack of 520.00) against the AQHA. Good luck with that one..

                            If you really are confused as to why you are not in demand for clinics, take a good look at the (now private) videos of your equitation ,teaching, and training ability and get some professional help to improve them.
                            Last edited by skydy; Nov. 15, 2012, 04:01 PM. Reason: Spelling

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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by skydy View Post
                              Originally posted by dragonharte8 View Post
                              for you arrogant and selfrighteous folks who 'hide' you real identity.
                              The two criminal cases against me could be easily cleared up if I had a Federal Grand Jury because I do have the physical evidence that proves violations of due process and a few other criminal acts by the State.
                              As for me running for President....well at least I had the guts to write put into print viable solutions.
                              As for my law suits here in Utah.........the cases were and are predicated upon evidence. If you take the time to actually read the cases you will see that rulings were issued in violation of the actual laws presented. In fact, my best friend who is a law professor even stated to me that he was dumb founded on the rulings.
                              So you can continue your slamming me all you want, but it clearly shows your ignorance.
                              SNORT! And I say that in my best National Show Horse channelling her inner ASB 'No freaking way man' voice.
                              Michael: Seems the people who burned me want me for a job.
                              Sam: A job? Does it pay?
                              Michael: Nah, it's more of a "we'll kill you if you don't do it" type of thing.
                              Sam: Oh. I've never liked those.

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                              • #35
                                Originally posted by dragonharte8 View Post
                                for you arrogant and selfrighteous folks who 'hide' you real identity.
                                The two criminal cases against me could be easily cleared up if I had a Federal Grand Jury because I do have the physical evidence that proves violations of due process and a few other criminal acts by the State.
                                As for me running for President....well at least I had the guts to write put into print viable solutions.
                                As for my law suits here in Utah.........the cases were and are predicated upon evidence. If you take the time to actually read the cases you will see that rulings were issued in violation of the actual laws presented. In fact, my best friend who is a law professor even stated to me that he was dumb founded on the rulings.
                                So you can continue your slamming me all you want, but it clearly shows your ignorance.

                                As I have no words, I reply simply with this GIF:

                                http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7lhEkXaNbs.../s1600/wtf.gif
                                Proud member of the Snort and Blow Clique

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                                • #36
                                  Perfect, MyssMyst!

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by dragonharte8 View Post
                                    for you arrogant and selfrighteous folks who 'hide' you real identity.
                                    The two criminal cases against me could be easily cleared up if I had a Federal Grand Jury because I do have the physical evidence that proves violations of due process and a few other criminal acts by the State.
                                    As for me running for President....well at least I had the guts to write put into print viable solutions.
                                    As for my law suits here in Utah.........the cases were and are predicated upon evidence. If you take the time to actually read the cases you will see that rulings were issued in violation of the actual laws presented. In fact, my best friend who is a law professor even stated to me that he was dumb founded on the rulings.
                                    So you can continue your slamming me all you want, but it clearly shows your ignorance.
                                    And everybody else is wrong and just out to get you. [edit]
                                    Last edited by Moderator 1; Nov. 15, 2012, 03:22 PM.
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                                    • #38
                                      We edited/removed a couple of comments crossing too far into personal commentary. It's fine to discuss trainers, their PR materials and other public actions related to their business practices, but please avoid getting into personal commentary/insults.

                                      Thanks,
                                      Mod 1

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                                        #39
                                        Originally posted by carolprudm View Post
                                        Right, many of the people seem to have been invited to the group without knowing anything about spirithorse. He also has this http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sympat...24806014204767

                                        including I am exasperated because folks will not give me an opportunity to demonstrate my knowledge in clinics.
                                        Questions.
                                        Why is it that folks only want to go to clinics of well known clinicians, riders, trainers?
                                        Do folks really believe that these elite are the only knowledgable ones?
                                        And more importantly, why would one go to a clinic that the presenter refuses to learn anything new, in other words, the presenter's word is written in stone?
                                        What has happened to seeking out knowledge, and in the horse world, why not seek out knowledge from experienced unknowns who just might have acquired some knowledge from the horses?

                                        People who pay to attend clinics do not want to see this; http://spirithorseltd.com.futuresite...obyjumping.jpg or discover this; http://thumbs.mugshots.com/gallery/i...ot.400x800.jpg .

                                        You just won't find many people who think that jumping, in that position, in that tack, and with pastern chains on , is a great idea.
                                        Last edited by skydy; Nov. 15, 2012, 04:59 PM.

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                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by mvp View Post
                                          This guy must look like a fly buzzing around the 1,000 lb. AQHA. It is a highly evolved organism with a tail and squiggy skin that can brush off this fly with a minimum of effort.
                                          Geez...no kidding! The AQHA has taken on much bigger fish; those will more money, brains and talent. This guy is just a mild annoyance who probably doesn't even get past the receptionist in Amarillo.

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